So I've always been partial to semi auto's but I've found myself wanting something very accurate. I'm starting to think maybe I need a bolt action for this even though I'd much rather have a semi auto. I want something in a caliber like 25-06 or 7mm-08 or similar. I want it to be able to shoot groups under 1" at 100 yards.
I've been reading how great the Marlin XL-7's are and they ...
The Browning is a better gun. Their trigger is excellent even though it's not an accutrigger. The fit and finish is far above Savage or Marlin. Whether or not that extra is worth it is differernt for everyone. How important is fit and finish? What's your comfortable price range? etc.etc. The new X-bolt's shoot very well and are lightweight. I really like mine. The new magazine is ...
I prefer a gun with nice wood but when I am hunting a plastic stock works fine for me. I hate scratching up a nice stock while I am out in the field. Have you considered a laminate stock. My local Walmart carries a Remington 700 ADL with laminate stock for $518. Only you know what is going to make you happy in the end. Get the gun you want and enjoy it.
You asked for opinions so I'll tell you.
IMO Browning Bolt actions, while great guns, are over priced. If you are looking for a MOA shooter they are great especially with the BOSS, but they will be no better than a Savage or a Remington which are both cheaper. My favorite rifles are Winchester model 70s (pre 64 style,) but I've never had one that would shoot as tight as a Remington 700. ...
I'm sold on the CZ with the single set trigger. In my experience, a good trigger makes a huge difference in the effort needed to shoot accurately. The CZ does this, is accurate, and the price isn't that bad.
To me, a rifle is just another tool. The less care that it takes, the happier I am. Most get painted with a flat camo or covered with a wrap if they have any resale value. Shiney stuff in the woods is not an asset.
Always remember; Shape, Shine, Shadow, Silhouette and Spacing. The 5 S's.
No one will outshoot the Savage. Remington is also very good. Browning is good. I believe that nowdays, technology has made most companies respectable. Marlin makes lever rifles of the highest quality, buy them. Leave the rifles ALONE! I prefer synthetic Savages in 25 Cal. Get what you want, but wood gets dinged up, and shiny blueing is reflective. There are many models from everyone that look ...
hometheaterman: Everyone here is pretty much spot on. I've had remington's, howa's, browning's, ruger's, and winchester's, etc, and they've all shot great with the right load. (with the exception of early rugers from the 70's and 80's. Plus all ruger #1's can be a bit difficult. As my dad said about ruger no 1's, "They're like some women. They're beautiful, but they will break your heart.")...
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No one will outshoot the Savage.
A bold statement. I've got a Ruger 10/22 that will shoot groups as tight as any Savage 22 bolt action I've seen. I've also seen a new Savage .30-06 shoot 3" groups at 100 yards, it was obviously flawed. I have a remington 700 in .22-250 that is very accurate with the right handloads (1/2 MOA) if I do ...
I don't know about Marlin but Savage does offer Walnut stocks. I think they call it the Classic model. If you don't like that give CZ a look. They are well known for stellar otb accuracy and come with both iron sights and single set triggers.
So I've always been partial to semi auto's but I've found myself wanting something very accurate. I'm starting to think maybe I need a bolt action for this even though I'd much rather have a semi auto. I want something in a caliber like 25-06 or 7mm-08 or similar. I want it to be able to shoot groups under 1" at 100 yards. I've been reading how great the Marlin XL-7's are and they seem really nice...
The Browning is a better gun. Their trigger is excellent even though it's not an accutrigger. The fit and finish is far above Savage or Marlin. Whether or not that extra is worth it is differernt for everyone. How important is fit and finish? What's your comfortable price range? etc.etc. The new X-bolt's shoot very well and are lightweight. I really like mine. The new magazine is outstanding. Feeds like butter.
I prefer a gun with nice wood but when I am hunting a plastic stock works fine for me. I hate scratching up a nice stock while I am out in the field. Have you considered a laminate stock. My local Walmart carries a Remington 700 ADL with laminate stock for $518. Only you know what is going to make you happy in the end. Get the gun you want and enjoy it.
You asked for opinions so I'll tell you. IMO Browning Bolt actions, while great guns, are over priced. If you are looking for a MOA shooter they are great especially with the BOSS, but they will be no better than a Savage or a Remington which are both cheaper. My favorite rifles are Winchester model 70s (pre 64 style,) but I've never had one that would shoot as tight as a Remington 700. I've never had a 700 that would not shoot,...
To me, a rifle is just another tool. The less care that it takes, the happier I am. Most get painted with a flat camo or covered with a wrap if they have any resale value. Shiney stuff in the woods is not an asset. Always remember; Shape, Shine, Shadow, Silhouette and Spacing. The 5 S's.
I'm sold on the CZ with the single set trigger. In my experience, a good trigger makes a huge difference in the effort needed to shoot accurately. The CZ does this, is accurate, and the price isn't that bad.
I don't know about Marlin but Savage does offer Walnut stocks. I think they call it the Classic model. If you don't like that give CZ a look. They are well known for stellar otb accuracy and come with both iron sights and single set triggers.
hometheaterman: Everyone here is pretty much spot on. I've had remington's, howa's, browning's, ruger's, and winchester's, etc, and they've all shot great with the right load. (with the exception of early rugers from the 70's and 80's. Plus all ruger #1's can be a bit difficult. As my dad said about ruger no 1's, "They're like some women. They're beautiful, but they will...
No one will outshoot the Savage. Remington is also very good. Browning is good. I believe that nowdays, technology has made most companies respectable. Marlin makes lever rifles of the highest quality, buy them. Leave the rifles ALONE! I prefer synthetic Savages in 25 Cal. Get what you want, but wood gets dinged up, and shiny blueing is reflective. There are many models from everyone that look GOOD in my opinion that are synthetic. If you must...
Quote: No one will outshoot the Savage. A bold statement. I've got a Ruger 10/22 that will shoot groups as tight as any Savage 22 bolt action I've seen. I've also seen a new Savage .30-06 shoot 3" groups at 100 yards, it was obviously flawed. I have a remington 700 in .22-250 that is very accurate with the right handloads (1/2 MOA) if I do my part. Not knocking Savage mind you, they are usually very accurate as...
The hardest decision I would have had is which gun to... The hardest decision I would have had is which gun to use. Do I use the .45, reach for 270 Browning, 30-06, 12 gauge, or Marlin 30-30.
10:35 AM September 30, 2008
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