Thread: Bitstreaming DTS-MA and True HD make a big difference?
Started 1 month, 1 week ago by ridergroov1
Hi folks. I have a PS3 for my blu ray player which cannot bitstream DTS-MA or TrueHD audio. It decodes then passes it to the receiver. Would getting a device that can bitstream it right to the receiver make a big difference?
Right I'm aware. I have the original PS3 which can't. I'm wondering if there is a big difference from decoding it on the PS3 and sending it to the receiver compared to bitstreaming to the receiver directly.
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Originally Posted by Kryptonic
Usually, the receiver will have a better decoder.
...no such thing.
They decode identical.
What the receiver decides to do with a Bitstream vs. PCM signal is a different story.
Yeah I kind of figured that I would get different responses but I thought maybe there was a definitive technical yes or no. Thanks to all for your input. I guess I'll stick with my setup for now.
The only possible difference would be if you hear jitter from sending PCM over HDMI to your AVR. If you don't, then all the benefits and features of the AVR are available to a PCM signal aside from decoding (ie. automatic calibration settings, crossover, delay, etc.)
I could not detect any jitter when sending PCM from a PS3, Denon 3800, or Oppo BD player. My opinion is that you're fine ...
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Originally Posted by Kryptonic
Usually, the receiver will have a better decoder. But in all reality, there's not much of a difference.
Decoding is basically uncompressing the file. It either uncompresses the file or not.
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Originally Posted by ridergroov1
Yeah I kind of figured that I would get different responses but I thought maybe there was a definitive technical yes or no. Thanks to all for your input. I guess I'll stick with my setup for now.
There's a great thread on the subject with all the technical information you ...
Quote: Originally Posted by wallendo Doesn't the PS3 bitstream TrueHD? I thought it was only DTS HD MA that the original PS3 couldn't stream. PS3 "fat" form factor cannot bitstream but decodes all and sends PCM over HDMI. PS3 "slim" form factor can bitstream all or decode. ridergroov1 has the "fat" PS3. __________________ Yes, I drank the OPPO Kool-Aid...
Quote: Originally Posted by EWL5 Ok, I think we're finally on the same page. Any PCM coming from your Oppo player is raw and will be manipulated by DSP, bass management, etc. by your Denon AVR. In other words, Audyssey settings would affect PCM from the Oppo. However, the same manipulations would be applied to a bitstream signal. I'm still not sure how you can attribute the Oppo's decoding as "bright" since...
Yeah I kind of figured that I would get different responses but I thought maybe there was a definitive technical yes or no. Thanks to all for your input. I guess I'll stick with my setup for now.
Quote: Originally Posted by ridergroov1 Yeah I kind of figured that I would get different responses but I thought maybe there was a definitive technical yes or no. Thanks to all for your input. I guess I'll stick with my setup for now. There's a great thread on the subject with all the technical information you will ever need : Player vs Receiver decoding
Quote: Originally Posted by EWL5 Considering that most BD movies have only one lossless track and that it normally plays by default (Warner, I'm looking at you!) , I'm not worried about what's being played. DTS and Dolby can play their games but lossless sound quality has more to do with how the track was mixed than the actual codec. This studio is the main reason I bitstream. I just always want to be sure I am getting the...
coming from a PS3 to my Panasonic BD35, the only difference I heard was TrueHD seemed to be louder and you can see the receiver adjust dialnorm levels. DTS-MA was the same as sending it PCM. It seems the PS3 doesn't account for dialnorm and typically outputs TrueHD 4db lower than DTS-MA. Bitstreaming to the receiver allows it to know what codec it's receiving and properly processes the dialnorm, where as sending PCM it only sees PCM....
Quote: Originally Posted by Kryptonic Usually, the receiver will have a better decoder. ...no such thing. They decode identical. What the receiver decides to do with a Bitstream vs. PCM signal is a different story.
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