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Thread: Best sequel of all time..........But something still nags me.

Started 1 month ago by eddiesatay
I can't praise this film enough ,and I think Cameron pretty much covered all bases,but when the first colonists arrived on LV426,how come they (or any subsequent colonist ships) Didn't pick up the Space Jockey's warning beacon just like the Nostromo did. I mean wasn't it an ongoing signal that had been transmitting for eons when the crew of Alien picked it up.
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bagabot replied 1 month ago
This is clearly explained in Alien/Aliens. I'm just not sure where. "I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies"

upl2229 replied 1 month ago
There's a deleted scene (re-inserted for the Special Edition) which depicts the discovery of the derelict by the Jordens. Since we and the Nostromo crew last saw it, it's been damaged by volcanic activity, a lava flow having crushed it against a rock outcropping and ripped open its hull. Aside from considerations of visual interest, this serves as a justification for the acoustic beacon being ...

eddiesatay replied 1 month ago
Aah! Thanks.Now I have an excuse to watch the special edition again.

danielholtz replied 1 month ago
To my recollection, the derelict was no longer transmitting the distress beacon, in a scene in the novelization of Alien Dallas presses some buttons on the Space Jockeys seat and the transmission ceases.

tommyuk replied 4 weeks ago
The best sequel of alltime is The Godfather Part 2 It's better than the Godfather

mkell_226 replied 3 weeks, 6 days ago
You know, I keep hearing that, but I've read the novelization several times (the one by Alan Dean Foster, just in case there was somehow another one that I'd never heard of,) and no such thing ever occurred. Shoot, the Space Jockey wasn't even *in* the novelization; they found the transmitter and scanned it, but Dallas never touched it.

darkstorm97 replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago
I have been watching the first two Alien movies forever, and never knew the lava/derelict story. Is that in a novelization or something? Either way, it explains how the opening in the ship looks different when the Jordens enter it. Also, does anyone have a link to O'Bannon's original script where he has his character's names before they were changed by Giler and Hill? Come with me if you ...

tommyuk replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago
I wouldn't have said it was important The ship just sunk down over time The Jordens don't get to the derelict cockpit which was a pity might have thrown some more light on the Space Jockey.Hopefully that will be re-addressed with the upcoming prequel.

jerryseven2 replied 3 weeks, 3 days ago
DS97, I can't answer your ? specifically. However, about a year ago someone posted one or two movies before A1 and A2 which had many character names found in both A1 and A2. I checked and he was correct. So apparently a writer/director was paying homage to some book/novel which had an influence on him (BTW, AvP2 has a Dallas). In a similar vein their are a few obscure movies before A1 (Vampire ...

behamut replied 2 weeks, 4 days ago
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/alien_early.htm l It's quite a bit different from the Alien we see on film. The basic premise is still there, and almost all the same plot points, but Giler and Hill really brought this story to life. Personally, I think if THIS script were to have been filmed, it would have been "good", but there wouldn't have been any sequels.

 

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eddiesatay
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Aah! Thanks.Now I have an excuse to watch the special edition again.
tommyuk
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I wouldn't have said it was important The ship just sunk down over time The Jordens don't get to the derelict cockpit which was a pity might have thrown some more light on the Space Jockey.Hopefully that will be re-addressed with the upcoming prequel.
bagabot
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This is clearly explained in Alien/Aliens. I'm just not sure where. "I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies"
upl2229
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Best sequel of all...
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There's a deleted scene (re-inserted for the Special Edition) which depicts the discovery of the derelict by the Jordens. Since we and the Nostromo crew last saw it, it's been damaged by volcanic activity, a lava flow having crushed it against a rock outcropping and ripped open its hull. Aside from considerations of visual interest, this serves as a justification for the acoustic beacon being non-operational....
danielholtz
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To my recollection, the derelict was no longer transmitting the distress beacon, in a scene in the novelization of Alien Dallas presses some buttons on the Space Jockeys seat and the transmission ceases.
mkell_226
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You know, I keep hearing that, but I've read the novelization several times (the one by Alan Dean Foster, just in case there was somehow another one that I'd never heard of,) and no such thing ever occurred. Shoot, the Space Jockey wasn't even *in* the novelization; they found the transmitter and scanned it, but Dallas never touched it.
darkstorm97
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I have been watching the first two Alien movies forever, and never knew the lava/derelict story. Is that in a novelization or something? Either way, it explains how the opening in the ship looks different when the Jordens enter it. Also, does anyone have a link to O'Bannon's original script where he has his character's names before they were changed by Giler and Hill? Come with me if you want to live.
jerryseven2
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Best sequel of all...
Published (2009-11-10 14:48:00)
DS97, I can't answer your ? specifically. However, about a year ago someone posted one or two movies before A1 and A2 which had many character names found in both A1 and A2. I checked and he was correct. So apparently a writer/director was paying homage to some book/novel which had an influence on him (BTW, AvP2 has a Dallas). In a similar vein their are a few obscure movies before A1 (Vampire something and Them) with similar plot...
behamut
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Best sequel of all...
Published (2009-11-16 10:54:00)
http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/alien_early.html It's quite a bit different from the Alien we see on film. The basic premise is still there, and almost all the same plot points, but Giler and Hill really brought this story to life. Personally, I think if THIS script were to have been filmed, it would have been "good", but there wouldn't have been any sequels.

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