Thread: Barbarian Martial Prowess

Quote: Seems to me you have no idea what's important in a battle! Its more important to win the battle then destroy and pillage the camp (turks fought in their own area)! I think it was not enough for the wallachians to help to destory the Sipahi and Arabs flank and destroy the camp because the battle was lost. Who knows maybe it was a result that 4000 soldiers missed from the battlefield when it was in a critical point and only around...

Quote: Who are you to say it's wrong? You already have your mind made up about something without even studying it. This is pathetic. Stop wasting my time anymore of you're just going to say stupid things like this. I said probably wrong. I already know the subject of it. Your cause is pathetic... Quote: Please this is little kid arguments. I give you sources and you say that they are probably wrong without even reading them. I ask...

Quote: Originally Posted by Carpathian Wolf For the most part I agree with you which is why Frustwulf's claim of 250,000 Dacians under Decebal is non sense. What we do know about the first battle of tapae and the sources agree on this, is that the Romans had 5 to 6 legions present. The Romans were defeated with heavy losses and Legio V being completely destroyed. Ah but see sources don't all agree on that as I have seen authors and...

@ Frostwulf Blanchard views as i said before is very superficial, and i didnt regard him at all as the "ultimate" authority in the problem. First, about Teutoborg The number of germans involved in battle isnt know, you said the only one who give a number is Wells, with around 18,000 troops. I dare to doubt that, since Arminius forged a quite big alliance of germanic tribes, Cherusci, Chatti, Marsi, etc., alliance who further...

Theres no refutation of the linguistic link that many linguists in both Indo-European, Gaulish and proto-Germanic identify between ario- and Ariovistus' name. It is well established in Gallic dictionaries and Indogermanisches Etymologisches Woerterbuch that ario- and Ariovistus is a Celto-Germanic personal name . That Ariovistus could have certainly been of a Celto-Germanic culture, especially as his band lived within the reaches of the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mulattothrasher I provided sources to back up my statements and quotes, thats all you need to know... i agree, ur sources are academic and they support your arguments. The other side is just ignoring it based on nationalistic idiocy. That's where this argument ends up in anyways. Rational thinkers vs nationalistic dick wavers.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mulattothrasher For those that have spent as much time as I have studying the Celts and the La Tene culture, you can almost point out the sections of the BG that are propaganda at will, its that simple. The Gallic culture is typically studied from a Romanocentric point of view, as the vast majority of publications chose to portray it as. Look at what your sources show. No military breakdown of the Gallic society...

Oh no, not the Gladiator as a source again!

Quote: Originally Posted by Phalanx300 Illyrians would classify as Barbarians. Why? They were Greeks with some Tracians and Illyrians influences. And for the people implying that Barbarians fought without formation and discipline, you are wrong, or at least about the Germanics since they were known to form formations and have high discipline when they faced the Romans. Ceasar even said that the Germanics he faced were the most disciplined men...

People should accept that large size leads to considerable advantage all things considered. Now there are ways to deny the advantage that Germanics had, by closing in close-range and denying them the space to swing about their big lumbering swords. But if this were done it would deny their sword-swinging martial style, not their advantage in height. For example if those same Germanics adopted the close-order stabbing gladius instead, the...