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Thread: Avant Garde: Experimental Cinema of the 1920's and '30s

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Kambei_Shimada
I suspect some of you either have this Kino DVD or may have seen some or all of the films on it, so I was just wondering what are your favourites, and why, and which you think are the poorest or,...... that dread word, again ,.....'overrated' I've watched a few so far and I just had a sneak peek at some of the IMDb user comments, which largely prompted this thread as I think these are the kind...
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Fish_Beauty replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Favorites - MxE9;nilmontant - a perferct short silent film: this will be in my Top 1000 The Life and Death of 9413, A Hollywood Extra - very funny at times: this may be in my Top 1000 H2O - The gradual abstraction of the water reflections hypnotizd me Polizeibericht xDC;berfall - I can't remember why I liked this one. I saw most but not all of the rest and liked them less but I couldn't...

lubin-freddy replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
It's a great collection. Even if it's not the kind of stuff you'd want to see after a hard day's work, everything is interesting. It shows an alternative cinema, which exists today in "dream sequences", or subjective presentations of reality, as well as in video art and some genres of music videos. "Sometimes you have to take the bull by the tail, and face the truth" - G. Marx

Kambei_Shimada replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
So far I've watched most of Side 2, although I stopped after 'Rain'. I was distracted during xDC;berfall but wasn't overly impressed by what I saw. (although if can't remember why you liked this one, you're unlikely to be able to enlighten me!) "Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... .."

Kambei_Shimada replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
what are your favourites, lubin? "Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... .."

lubin-freddy replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I love all the Man Ray films, which I had known before, and had on an obscure VHS tape. I enjoyed MxE9;nilmontant and La Coquille et le Clergyman , as well as the Jean Epstein films. Life and Death of 9413 A Hollywood Extra is a lot of fun as well. As I wrote above, you can't judge these films in the same way you'd judge conventional narrative cinema. But they're fascinating, ...

Kambei_Shimada replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
As I wrote above, you can't judge these films in the same way you'd judge conventional narrative cinema of course not, they're experimental, which I suppose might be a defintion of 'avant garde' I loved 'La Coquille et le Clergyman',also: I hadn't seen any review of it prior to watching it but I was wondering, as I was watching, did it in any way influence Bunuel's 'Un Chien Andalou' ...

lubin-freddy replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
But people DO often judge them by standards other than those applicable to this kind of cinema. Anyway, I'm glad you have the set. I remember ordering it as soon as it came out, which I seldom do. "Sometimes you have to take the bull by the tail, and face the truth" - G. Marx

Thrift_Store_Junkie05 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Dimitri Kirsanoff's 'MxE9;nilmontant' is the most hauntingly beautiful film I've ever seen. The gruesome opening montage of a husband and wife being murdered still frightens me everytime I watch it. Not only is it one of my favorite films, I believe it wholeheartedly to be one of the greatest films of the 1920s. Robert Florey's 'The Life and Death of 9413x97;A Hollywood Extra' is one of the ...

Kambei_Shimada replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
prior to watching 'MxE9;nilmontant' Robert Florey's 'The Life and Death of 9413x97;A Hollywood Extra' is one of the most ambitious films one will ever have the pleasure of viewing. My thoughts on 'Extra' is that its certainly fun to watch but I'd regard it as more of a technical accomplishment than avant garde in the sense that I prefer it, as in surreal, or poetic, a la Jean Cocteau,..or...

Kambei_Shimada replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Which is your favourite Man Ray? "Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... .."

 

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Kambei_Shimada
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Avant Garde: Experimental Cinema...
Published (2009-11-14 08:55:00)
No, I've only seen the above (not all of whom worked for me) "Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta get mad!... .."
lubin-freddy
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Avant Garde: Experimental Cinema...
Published (2009-11-14 08:42:00)
Has anyone seen the "Avant Garde" edition of "Treasures from American Film Archives"? It includes: Bruce Baillie, Here I Am (1962) Wallace Berman, Aleph (1956-66?) Stan Brakhage, The Riddle of Lumen (1972) Robert Breer, Eyewash (1959) Shirley Clarke, Bridges-Go-Round (1958) Joseph Cornell, By Night with Torch and Spear (1940s?) Storm De Hirsch, Peyote Queen (1965) Hollis Frampton, (nostalgia) (1971) Larry...
Fish_Beauty
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Avant Garde: Experimental Cinema...
Published (2009-11-07 03:20:00)
Favorites - Ménilmontant - a perferct short silent film: this will be in my Top 1000 The Life and Death of 9413, A Hollywood Extra - very funny at times: this may be in my Top 1000 H2O - The gradual abstraction of the water reflections hypnotizd me Polizeibericht Überfall - I can't remember why I liked this one. I saw most but not all of the rest and liked them less but I couldn't tell you why. Experimental cinema...
Thrift_Store_Junkie05
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Avant Garde: Experimental Cinema...
Published (2009-11-08 16:40:00)
Dimitri Kirsanoff's 'Ménilmontant' is the most hauntingly beautiful film I've ever seen. The gruesome opening montage of a husband and wife being murdered still frightens me everytime I watch it. Not only is it one of my favorite films, I believe it wholeheartedly to be one of the greatest films of the 1920s. Robert Florey's 'The Life and Death of 9413—A Hollywood Extra' is one of the most...

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