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Thread: Archive through June 30, 2004

Started 3 years, 10 months ago by Melissa Camiel (jettasmomma)
I thought canned foods are supposed to be better for dogs because they generally have less carbs, more protein, less fillers, and more moisture. Then how come the protein levels always read around 9 percent?? Someone please explain....
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Kelly R. (sooner) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
This site explains how to convert the protein into dry-weight percentage. HTH http://www.caninecuisine.ca/descr iption/nutrition.html

Janice (jessies_mom) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Melissa, Here's another site explaining why canned food has more protein than dry, and has the dry matter basis formula. http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/dm.htm l

Kelly R. (sooner) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Ooooo, much better - *saved to favorites*

Melissa Camiel (jettasmomma) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Thanks guys--that clears it up for me!! I always wondered why the percent seemed so low. Another question: If I decide to feed canned, should I feed just canned or do you suggest mixing it with kibble?? (I think I may try innova canned since Jetta likes the kibble so much)

Janice (jessies_mom) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
I think that's up to you. Jessie gets kibble mixed with a little canned in the morning, and kibble with homecooked meat or eggs in the evening. My husband feeds her in the morning. It would be expensive to feed a 65 pound dog like Jessie canned all the time. Innova canned should be good. It's probably best to mix the same brands of kibble and canned. Some brands of canned are better than others; ...

Melissa Camiel (jettasmomma) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Thanks for asking about Jetta! I haven't really mentioned her itchies for a while because I was afraid of what the people on i-dog would say about the way I am dealing with it. The vet put her on prednisone for two days, then one pill every other day, every two days, and then i will wean her off of it. According to her, if i give her a small dose of the pred right when she starts to have a ...

Glenda Lee (glenmar) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Melissa, long term use of pred is awful. But, sometimes you've just gotta use it to get things settled down. I have a personal bias against it cuz of what it did to ME, but sometimes it's a very neccessary tool in getting things settled down enough so that some of the other stuff CAN work. Just be sure that the vet keeps a VERY close eye on her liver function since pred is pretty toxic to the ...

Janice (jessies_mom) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Melissa, I'm glad you have found a way to help Jetta. I went through the same thing with Jessie, where antihistamines, baths, holistic remedies like quercitin, a better diet, etc., didn't help. It's so frustrating and heartbreaking for your dog to be scratching itself sore and not to find something that helps. It looks like the vet is trying to manage Jetta's allergies with a minimun amount of ...

Rebecca Shouse (brookcove) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Sometimes pred or something similiar is all you can do to break the cycle. When Ben had the awful chicken/thyroid reaction last summer there was no way I was going to stand by and let him suffer. He had a short acting shot which got things under control and let our long-term plan start to ameliorate things. Science IS useful sometimes, LOL. It's possible poor Ben will have to have a short ...

christine (ozzie72) replied 3 years, 10 months ago
Melissa have you had your dog tested to see what he's allergic to? As you're aware steroids only cover the problem,not cure it and very often the symptoms return worse than before when the steroids are stopped

 

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Janice (jessies_mom)
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Evan, I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way. The smiley face was intended to show that the remark was in fun. My questions are very valid and counterpoints to your statement that dogs don't have allergies. If they don't have allergies, can you explain why the blood tests and skin tests show that they do, and the immunotherapy gives them relief? Jessie never has had prednisone. She is fed a dog food with no artificial...
Melissa Camiel (jettasmomma)
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Archive through June 30, 2004
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Thanks for asking about Jetta! I haven't really mentioned her itchies for a while because I was afraid of what the people on i-dog would say about the way I am dealing with it. The vet put her on prednisone for two days, then one pill every other day, every two days, and then i will wean her off of it. According to her, if i give her a small dose of the pred right when she starts to have a really "bad day" with her skin then...
Kelly R. (sooner)
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Archive through June 30, 2004
Published (2006-02-24 19:40:00)
Ooooo, much better - *saved to favorites*
Rebecca Shouse (brookcove)
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Published (2006-02-27 09:49:00)
I have a dog on an all natural raw diet. He's been on it for two years. He is sensitive, allergic, whatever to chicken. A chunk of raw chicken eaten today would put him in the hospital tomorrow. No commerical product or snake oil would change that. I find it a little obnoxious when you, Evan, come on here and imply that there never is a reason to go to pharmaceuticals as a LAST RESORT, complementary to a holistic approach. Show me the...
Glenda Lee (glenmar)
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Archive through June 30, 2004
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Melissa, long term use of pred is awful. But, sometimes you've just gotta use it to get things settled down. I have a personal bias against it cuz of what it did to ME, but sometimes it's a very neccessary tool in getting things settled down enough so that some of the other stuff CAN work. Just be sure that the vet keeps a VERY close eye on her liver function since pred is pretty toxic to the liver. But, lots of human meds are too,...
christine (ozzie72)
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Archive through June 30, 2004
Published (2006-02-25 02:54:00)
Melissa have you had your dog tested to see what he's allergic to? As you're aware steroids only cover the problem,not cure it and very often the symptoms return worse than before when the steroids are stopped
Evan (nave)
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Allergy Immunotherapy works the same way that giving a dog a rabies shot works. My point was, acutally, pretty simple. People, in GENERAL terms will spend a gazillion dollars on allergists and the like and still feed their dog Ol' Roy. Doesn't make much sense to me. We live in a lazy society that believes, for the most part, we can only feed our dogs what comes in bags. People have so many problems that they create for themselves...
John (trackman)
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Evan, if you're right, then why does my dog react within 24 hours to any poultry, but otherwise do fine. As soon as I stopped giving him chicken, he started to improve. Then I tried turkey - he started scratching. I stopped the turkey, whereupon he stopped scratching. Same with duck. Any red meat = no problem. So, my dog has an allergy. By the way, you were pretty hard on Janice. I don't believe her smiley face was even remotely...
Renee (kennel_keeper)
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Evan, I tend to agree with you to some extent. I feel there is alot of "human" interpretation on what's going on with our pets where "allergies" are concerned. Sure, there may be some dogs that are having true allergic reactions to some compounds (food, enviromental, etc), but alot of the symptoms that we interpret as allergies could actually be "sensetivities". For example, I am "sensitive" to...

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