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Thread: Anyone had their water pump fail ?

Started 2 years, 7 months ago by jkp
Anyone had their water pump fail ? Did it sieze, or fail catastrophically such that there was collateral engine damage due to the timing belt displacement ? Or did it just leak coolant, maybe cause an overheat ? I am trying to assess the risk of leaving my 125K water pump in place, or pre-emptively replacing it. BTW...timing belt was replaced@ 105 K 99 Ody
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egads replied 2 years, 7 months ago
And the water pump was not replaced at 105 with the timing belt because?

rberman999 replied 2 years, 7 months ago
I'll not give you a hard time about you not changing your water pump when you did the timming belt. Instead I will try to give you some insight as to what to watch out for with your water pump. As a general rule water pumps do not go from "working" fine to total failure without some sort of warning. So you should watch out for loss of coolant that can not be explained. Your water ...

kalaskas replied 2 years, 7 months ago
Well, I had timing belt and water pump replaced at 115K this past August 06, no big deal. January 07 the water pumps starts leaking from the weep hole on water pump, okay take back to garage to fix. Replaced water pump but some how they screw up the power steering. Did not bleed system properly, they say. A couple weeks ago water pumps starts leaking again now I hear ...

cnn replied 2 years, 7 months ago
Some thoughts.............. quote: [i]........... The bearing is lubracated via your coolant so it is important to keep fresh clean coolant in you cooling system. Your biggest danger would be if the bearing goes bad, but again as a general rule they dont go from functional to bad overnight. If the bearing does go bad then you would get some "play" in the bearing and this will also ...

jondotcom replied 2 years, 7 months ago
Next time use dealer parts. The oem one is probably good for 200k miles, but its advisable to change it with an OEM one if you are in there anyway. Water pumps generally start leaking well in advance of a full bearing failure, hence the weep hole.

rberman999 replied 2 years, 7 months ago
CNN, I did a search of the internet and found that what I had stated was correct, the water pump bearing is lubricated from the coolant, no not exclusively but it does in fact receive lubricant from the cooling system. Yes the bearings are shielded but they are not "tight" from coolant penitration. As far as a water pump lasting from 40 to 160 K miles, again, not sure where this ...

jkp replied 2 years, 7 months ago
All good info,.. thanks to all contributors and readers.....But I guess what I am really after, is some opinion on the likelihood of sudden catastrophic WP failure mode causing the timing belt to break/skip/or strip, and thus ruining/severely damaging the engine. I was warned about this by a mechanic, and I believe it is theoretically possible, but not probable.....but hey...I'm not a ...

rberman999 replied 2 years, 7 months ago
jkp, If you do a search on the internet there is good information on water pump failure. Most of what has been said holds. As far as your water pump seizing up there is as much danger of that happening as the idler pully or the adjusting pully seizing up. If that happens your are (excuse the expression) screwed. The issue is where a belt travels over a bearing supported surface ...

BenjiBoy168 replied 2 years, 7 months ago
What I would do in your case is to leave the WP in there for now but change the timing belt early at 160K or so (whatever the interval is for the timing belt under severe schedule). If anything seizes that causes your timing belt to go, with this interference engine you are looking into the thousands to repair it.

jkp replied 2 years, 7 months ago
BenjiBoy Good call !...I think I will roll the dice for now betting that I will detect a problem before it goes catastrophic....ie.. squealing or coolant leakage,....but I will change the next belt out early. My Ody is a good one for the most part....Engine runs like a top, with mileage about as advertised by the EPA. While it was under warranty, I had all the service done at the ...

 

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jkp
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2008-11-22 18:05:00)
Old thread which was mine to begin with, but I am now revisiting because my Ody is almost up to 150K miles. To answer the last question: I never replaced the water pump at all....question of OEM vs aftermarket part does not apply. I am getting ready to go at the timing belt again (second time is always a snap compared to first) and this time, I will replace the water pump and tensioner at the same time, just for insurance. JKP
rberman999
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-05-01 04:21:00)
CNN, I did a search of the internet and found that what I had stated was correct, the water pump bearing is lubricated from the coolant, no not exclusively but it does in fact receive lubricant from the cooling system. Yes the bearings are shielded but they are not "tight" from coolant penitration. As far as a water pump lasting from 40 to 160 K miles, again, not sure where this comes from, no expected MTBF that I have ever seen in...
jondotcom
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-05-02 21:03:00)
quote: Originally posted by jondotcom Ok, so was the replaced water pump that subsequently failed a dealer OEM part, or aftermarket? Common, fess up
cnn
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-04-30 05:21:00)
Some thoughts.............. quote: [i]........... The bearing is lubracated via your coolant so it is important to keep fresh clean coolant in you cooling system. Your biggest danger would be if the bearing goes bad, but again as a general rule they dont go from functional to bad overnight. If the bearing does go bad then you would get some "play" in the bearing and this will also often result in seal damage and coolent loss (there...
BenjiBoy168
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-05-01 05:14:00)
What I would do in your case is to leave the WP in there for now but change the timing belt early at 160K or so (whatever the interval is for the timing belt under severe schedule). If anything seizes that causes your timing belt to go, with this interference engine you are looking into the thousands to repair it.
0dyfamily
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2008-11-22 18:25:00)
Re: Some thoughts.............. quote: Originally posted by cnn 1. WP, as a rule, lasts anywhere between 40K and 160k miles, depending on the car. 2. However, for the sake of safety and engine porotection, most mechanics replace the water pump at around 100K or so, again depending on car. 3. The WP bearing is lubricated by grease from factory, protected by the inner seal. So the antifreeze never lubricates the bearing. However, when the inner...
Dougatoms
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2009-10-31 23:18:00)
My 2001 Odyssey has 197k. The water pump started weeping a few months back (~10k miles). The first TB was replaced at 105k and the WP free play was check only (no problems found). Since I do my own maintenance, labor is free and I wouldn't mind having to go back in if the WP failed between timing belt replacement. I have a new WP and TB (all OEM parts) ready for installation. Just waiting for an open time slot in my schedule to do the...
egads
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-04-29 05:59:00)
And the water pump was not replaced at 105 with the timing belt because?
kalaskas
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Anyone had their water pump fail ?
Published (2007-04-30 03:52:00)
Well, I had timing belt and water pump replaced at 115K this past August 06, no big deal. January 07 the water pumps starts leaking from the weep hole on water pump, okay take back to garage to fix. Replaced water pump but some how they screw up the power steering. Did not bleed system properly, they say. A couple weeks ago water pumps starts leaking again now I hear noises (bearing) I guess from water pump. Not going back to the that garage...

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