Thread: Ann Arbor is awesome

"Ummm, Alex, I think #6 is clearly Berkeley. And it's not only me who is biased...that's been established over many years by the ~2,000 academics completing the peer assessment poll." Hehe! Well, it so happens that the 4 Cs (Cal, Catech, Chicago and Columbia) all make the strongest case for #6 honors. But schools like Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Michigan, Northwestern, Penn etc... aren't far...

"Jack of all trades, master of NONE." rofl

^^^Well when you don't have a top nursing program nearby your med school/hospital that grants undergraduate degrees, I guess it wouldn't make much of a difference if you had a med school campus or not. ;-)

"After those 5, you have 12 or so universities of equal quality, although they vary in style and environment." First you said 20. Now you say 12. What will you say next?

I don't think OOS students are the difference, but the lower percentage of in-state students is a mark of Michigan. The law school, for example, admits a lower percentage in-state than the other public top-ranked law schools - it used to be 50% and may still be. That helps the reputation if not the reality of the education. As I said above, the grad schools reputations are the big driver. That kind of ranking is much more important and...

I can tell from my experiences that Ann Arbor is almost immune from the economic troubles that affect most Michigan cities (larger areas such as Detroit and Flint having the most difficulties). I got my apartment unit for a really good rate (early bird special). I don't think you will have too much trouble finding housing. However, I am a graduate student so I am living off-campus where the rents are cheaper and rooms more spacious. As...

I love these threads... Quote: Originally Posted by Alex Those are, in alphabetical order, Brown, Cal, Caltech, Chicago, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Michigan, Northwestern and Penn. None of those schools can make a clear claim at being #6 in the nation Ummm, Alex, I think #6 is clearly Berkeley. And it's not only me who is biased...that's been established over many years by the ~2,000 academics completing the...

Indeed OOS may have higher SAT scores, particularly since the State of Michigan uses, pays for and reports ACT scores...so SAT is under-represented and under-studied (unless a student is targeting some OOS schools.) And I agree Tyler, with your assessment that the GPA phenom of OOS students can indeed be explained by the fact that many of the students admitted will be from exceptionally rigorous private schools. However, I note that if the OOS...

The University opens up opportunities all over the world including some opportunities in Michigan. The economic situation will not be the same by the time you graduate.

"We don't disagree, though I think the "edge" conversation is absolutely silly. Michigan has higher scores because the OOS students raise the average. We know that. Other arguments are, well, silly. Example: sure Michigan has a more diverse alumni base but it's still in Michigan, where job growth is awful, while Texas is in Texas, where job growth is better. Does it matter? Not really." It matters...