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Thread: Am I an ABUSER! (long)

Started 6 months, 2 weeks ago by tojaz
Really not sure what I'm going to hear, but here is my story. While I realize that it is just my side, I will try to be as honest as I can and will check back often to answer any questions. I would appreciate as much Feedback as I can get, good or bad. I have been with my wife for 12 years, but only married for two. About almost two months ago, she told me out of the blue that she wanted a ...
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missdependant replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Don't take this the wrong way, but she probably should have left you when you started pushing her or being physically aggressive toward her. I am in no way a supporter of abuse whether it's physical, emotional, sexual; against a man or a woman.. it's all wrong in my book. Obviously, she made the choice to forgive you for this and stay with you. And that's fine.. The examples that you ...

GorillaTheater replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by tojaz A couple of weeks prior she had asked me for permission to travel to the city for the day, with an ex-boyfriend of hers that she had recently become friends with again. I was also made clear that I was not invited. I had told her previous to that, that spending time with him made me uncomfortable and ...

Kamille replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Since the words she used is "emotionnally abusive", I paid more attention to what could be construed as emotional abuse. Two things stood out: 1) You say she asked you for permission to see a friend. Granted, I understand you likely only used that phrase lightly, but why would two equal partners need to ask each other permissions to do things? In my current and past relationships, we discuss ...

carhill replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Marital history rewrite by a cheater in the fog, IMO. Taking of imperfections in action and behavior and projecting them as global negatives. Now would be a good time for you to work through these issues. If you don't, they'll beat up your self-esteem for a long time to come. You're taking responsibility for your actions. That's a good thing. Beware of gaslighting. I'm sensing some of it ...

Ronni_W replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
The thing about being the abused -- if SHE sees it that way, then that IS how she sees it...that is HER perception of her situation as seen through her own filters, wants, goals, needs, beliefs, etc. It doesn't mean, though, that she's using accurate definitions or interpreting her "evidence" accurately. It sounds is if you do have anger/rage issues. You got a bit of help with that, but ...

bentnotbroken replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
You said an instance was the day before her divorce was final with her ex, were you an OM? Did you get with her before she divorced? Is this the reason you were overly jealous, because she cheated with you, so you thought she would cheat on you? If this is the case, you knew her character before you married and she knew yours, sounds like a divorce was inevitable if you(and she) haven't changed...

tojaz replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks for all the honest replies. I forgot, that he story of my divorce is also on LS http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t190291/ For a clearer picture if you'd like. MISSDEPENDENT- I agree with you 100% about the physical aspect of things. The shoving was just that, not into a wall, not to the ground, but still unexcusable. That is why I sought out counseling and any time we had a fight after...

bentnotbroken replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by tojaz Thanks for all the honest replies. I forgot, that he story of my divorce is also on LS http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t190291/ For a clearer picture if you'd like. MISSDEPENDENT- I agree with you 100% about the physical aspect of things. The shoving was just that, not into a wall, not to the ...

hey_beautiful replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
I am on the fence about this. I think abuse is subjective, and if the person you are with views it as abuse, then you know you are doing something wrong. I grew up in an abusive family, but it manifested itself differently. Just going off of what I consider abuse, I'd say that you weren't abusive per se, you just have a big issue controlling your temper. There is no excuse for behavior when you ...

tojaz replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago
hey Beautiful, Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to try them. Thats, a good point that abuse is really in the eye of the beholder, I guess thats why all the descriptions are so vague. Something to keep in mind!! TOJAZ

 

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Taramere
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Quote: Originally Posted by jasminetea Oh you know what, thank you so, so much. I'm really grateful for your help, I can't tell you how much. I'm also feeling real admiration for you and your brother and your management of what is such a needlessly hurtful situation. Thanks. I think it's probably fair to say that my father would have done a lot better with children of a different personality type, and I would have done...
tojaz
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Published (2009-10-23 20:21:00)
Wow, Haven't checked on this thread for quite awhile. Thanks everyone for all the insightful input from both sides of the fence. Quick update, I am divorced now and have made a home for myself on the seperation and divorce board and have learned a lot and am trying hard to pass it along to others. I wood like to address some of the angrier responses that basicly infer that i am some sort of closet wife beater looking for justification, i...
jasminetea
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Quote: Originally Posted by Taramere It's understandable. Change is so hard to effect in ourselves, that I think we focus on trying to change other people instead. That's very, very true. I guess I've learnt from this site, if nothing else, that hard though it may be its not impossible to change oneself. Quote: Originally Posted by Taramere Brilliant! I used snippets of it with regard to public speaking (I had a phobia)....
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Quote: Originally Posted by sugarmomma Please speak for yourself because all people do not act like this. I am recovering from an abusive past and I had to become educated about all forms of abuse (psychological, mental, emotional, physical and financial). I also come from an abusive past, my father was jailed after attempting to murder my mom, after years of abuse. I grew up watching abuse, i know what it is thank you very much! You are...
bentnotbroken
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Published (2009-06-17 19:45:00)
You said an instance was the day before her divorce was final with her ex, were you an OM? Did you get with her before she divorced? Is this the reason you were overly jealous, because she cheated with you, so you thought she would cheat on you? If this is the case, you knew her character before you married and she knew yours, sounds like a divorce was inevitable if you(and she) haven't changed your core value systems.
hey_beautiful
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Published (2009-06-18 09:52:00)
I am on the fence about this. I think abuse is subjective, and if the person you are with views it as abuse, then you know you are doing something wrong. I grew up in an abusive family, but it manifested itself differently. Just going off of what I consider abuse, I'd say that you weren't abusive per se, you just have a big issue controlling your temper. There is no excuse for behavior when you lash out or behave violently, because...
torranceshipman
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Published (2009-10-22 16:47:00)
Just from my own personal point of view...you'd have scared me when you got mad and threw stuff (etc), and I'd have felt intimidated by you, and the personal negative comments would have bought down my self esteem and made me very miserable...I think that the office analogy was a very good one, as really, the focus of someone throwing stuff and smashing stuff and shouting is to make the partner feel intimidated, scared, and fearful -...
The Collector
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Published (2009-10-22 17:24:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Mary3 She wanted an exit out . She found it. She is involved with this ex boyfriend . She is leaving you for him . Not trying to say the above to hurt you. But if she intends to keep you in the dark and play stupid about the other guy , she is wrong. I realize you were a former abuser. You have stated that you have made leaps and bounds for better treatment and behavior. I will give you that. I don't think ANY...
blind_otter
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Published (2009-06-26 12:16:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by tojaz I see these as unhealthy and barbaric acts of frustration, poorly managed anger. I see abuse as a deliberate attempt to cause harm or control another person for your own gain. While I have no doubts that these actions effected my wife, that was not WHY I did them. I took no pleasure, quite the opposite really. I just wanted to mention that there are actually few if any abusers that deliberately attempt to...
sugarmomma
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Published (2009-06-26 21:54:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Girlygal All of us have temper tantrums, we all throw things or punch things or say silly remarks on a persons driving (just ask my H, i drive him crazy with my back seat driving). They are not trye abusive patterns. Please speak for yourself because all people do not act like this. I am recovering from an abusive past and I had to become educated about all forms of abuse (psychological, mental, emotional, physical...

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