OK everyone here we go. 99 Suburban K1500 4x4 5700 Vortec.
This started while plowing at the end of the season last spring.
When you start it, it starts, runs and idles well. after a short bit of driving(couple miles) it acts like it is starving for fuel if you give it more than about 1/2 throttle. I'm talking horrible here. Falls on it's face and starts to miss and loses speed. IF you ...
Have any of the shops checked the mass air flow sensor? Have it scanned for erratic gm/sec MAF readings, or try a know good one. Typically, this would set a code, and you'd have a check engine light... but anything is possible.
google 1996-2000 vortec csfi recalls\service bulletins they are a known piece of crap(by gm) that will give you symptoms of all kinds similar to what you are describing. There is a updated gm part that gets rid of the poppet style injectors and replaces them with real ones. You can also get them aftermarket now from napa etc I put one in my 96 k2500 similar symptoms to what you are describing ...
Thanks Sydenstricker & Luke P. Pump pressure was over 62psi while driving, under load. Seems like something else about injectors has sort of come up before in my travels. I'll have to check into the injectors and possibly the regulator. Any ideas are welcome!! LOL
Chris
One thing I haven't tried is injector Cleaner. Reading around found a few that have done it and it cleared it up. A few bottles of injector cleaner is ALOT cheaper than the 500 dollar conversion right now. Thanks Luke for pointing me in that direction.
Chris
If it is indeed your injectors and the cleaner works I would consider it borrowed time when GM first started cleaning them they found it pretty ineffective and moved to component replacment (I forget the exact timeline but at first they switched the bad poppets if they could then started using the updated part) and eventually went back to cleaning or poppet replacement because doing it right was ...
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Originally Posted by brad96z28
Sounds like u may have a fuel volume issue U could have 62 psi and crap for volume. Was a volume test performed?
Nout sure but probably just pressure. You know small town, small shops...AND a tight a$$ that just can't bear to take it to the stealership.(one of my guys IS a ...
MAP Sensor is all you really have left.
I had issues with the MAP sensor. It did stumble but, not too bad - mostly at cruising speed and throttle.
Your description sounds exactly like the injectors. The older design would get to a point and simply fail - no codes on mine. Replaced them with the new version and bingo!
nestech has a real good point about the cats if the back pressure at the 02 bungs seems high at all and you can't find a weak cylinder as mentioned above I would consider unbolting the Y pipe at the manifolds(depending on the studs condition of course) or the cat and run it open exhaust somewhere you aren't going to get a ticket if it livens right up you have your culprit also a plugged cat gets the exhaust crazy hot which would...
Quote: Originally Posted by Racer593 Nout sure but probably just pressure. You know small town, small shops...AND a tight a$$ that just can't bear to take it to the stealership.(one of my guys IS a Goodwrench service manager with a Tech II at home though!!!!) Chris Even with a tech 2 It is only as good as the guy using it.
I was just thinking ....... 62psi seems low. I thought the fuel pressure test was to put the gauge on. Turn the key to build fuel line pressure. I believe 70-90 psi. Then turn the key and see where the pressure is at 1 minute. If it drops below 68 then your pump is bad. I remember going through 3 brand new GM pumps before finding a good one. It can happen.
Yea check it out FORSURE, Dont assume becuase it does sound 100% like what mine did. I had to replace it 2 times in 2 years on one truck. They are not expensive to buy. If I remember they under 20 bucks. I'm betting its the TPS but if its not just return the part. They give you a hard time returning it, tell them its not the right one and you already got the right one from another store Only thing that makes me wonder is why you dont have...
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