Thread: 50's thing vs. 80's Thing: which do you chose?
Started 2 months, 2 weeks ago by delgadosaur
Dunno if I'm repeating another thread, but I love both of these movies and was wondering which one you all preferred? I guess I am prejudiced by the fact
that I saw Carpenter's version first, but Hawk's version is riveting.
Thoughts?
IMHO it's apples and oranges; film techniques as well as audience expectations changed greatly in the years between the two movies. I like them both but
maybe it's my age showing, the 50's version sends chills up my spine.
The special effects were very good in the 80's version and the 50's version did have a B movie look to it, but that was also part of it's charm for
me. Bob Burns Halloween ...
Carpenter's THING all the way for me... tense, scary, suspenseful. And that's saying something, considering how much I am always slamming "modern
remakes" (though in all fairness, I'm mainly criticizing the '90s and '00s epidemic there). I've been meaning to watch the 1951 film again
soon, maybe even tonight actually, but to me it's just always been so damn talky and dull. I've always felt that ...
A rare case in which the remake surpasses the original. Forget the gore;
"The Thing" is a freakshow from opening to closing. It plays like a great
mystery and the paranoia of not knowing who is real and not real makes
this version a real roller coaster ride. I suppose a good chunk of the credit
goes to Carpenter, who supposedly more closely bases his script on the
source material.
...
I still prefer the original 1951 THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD although the remake was quite good too. But I think they missed the boat at the end of the
Carpenter version by not ending the film like the original story ended....
you'd have to read the original story "Who Goes There" to know what I'm talking about.
Carpenter's Thing was more like the story alien, but I prefer the 51 version. Unlike Carpenters alien, the original Thing showed more intelligence, which
is clearly indicated by the end of " Who Goes There?".
The '51 version scared me so bad. I was a paperboy and delivered a morning paper. For those of you who did the same, you know what time you had to get up.
It was winter with snow on the ground and I bet I looked behind every tree I rode by.
The 1982 version scared me just as bad, but in a grown-up way, if that makes any sense
Agree that it's apples and cabbage.
I will always prefer the '51 version. If it's on, I watch it.
While I like Carpenter's movie (because he stayed with the original story's concept), there were just one too many stupid things in the picture for me
(like their solution to destroying a life form of billions of individual parts by blowing it up into billions of now scattered individual ...
Very true. James Arness' Thing was tame compared to the morphing monster from Carpenter's film. In the 50s, however, they didn't have the technology to produce such a beast, or if they had tried it might have been laughable to see. As I remember the short story, the alien was humanoid and covered in blue, wormlike hair.
I just saw the Hawks version the other night, and it's a terrific picture. I also laughed because I remember seeing it as a kid and being furious with the scientist who turned off the electricity at the height of the third act. Great, snappy dialogue too. Having written this, the scene in the Carpenter version where they dowse the buy with the big hands, set him on fire and Mac wonders who is who is genuinely creepy.
JimPV wrote: Godziwolf wrote: The dynamite makes sense in the context of the plan -- they need to freeze the creature. The lack of attack is explained in the book, actually. The Thing is such a good mimic that it's not clear if the various Things can identify each other, and it tends to only attack when its certain of success. Remember, in the last scene, neither might be Things, and even if one or both were, given the circumstances, it...
I have the 1951 shortened version that has a John Carpenter commentary. Picked it up at a convention. It is a decent commentary with some good information but after listening to it from start to finish I believe I and probably all those on this thread could do a better commentary for Hawks classic! That said, I do recommend it for those completists out there.
Godziwolf wrote: The dynamite makes sense in the context of the plan -- they need to freeze the creature. The lack of attack is explained in the book, actually. The Thing is such a good mimic that it's not clear if the various Things can identify each other, and it tends to only attack when its certain of success. Remember, in the last scene, neither might be Things, and even if one or both were, given the circumstances, it wouldn't...
Carpenter's THING all the way for me... tense, scary, suspenseful. And that's saying something, considering how much I am always slamming "modern remakes" (though in all fairness, I'm mainly criticizing the '90s and '00s epidemic there). I've been meaning to watch the 1951 film again soon, maybe even tonight actually, but to me it's just always been so damn talky and dull. I've always...
IMHO it's apples and oranges; film techniques as well as audience expectations changed greatly in the years between the two movies. I like them both but maybe it's my age showing, the 50's version sends chills up my spine. The special effects were very good in the 80's version and the 50's version did have a B movie look to it, but that was also part of it's charm for me. Bob Burns Halloween extravaganza was based...
A rare case in which the remake surpasses the original. Forget the gore; "The Thing" is a freakshow from opening to closing. It plays like a great mystery and the paranoia of not knowing who is real and not real makes this version a real roller coaster ride. I suppose a good chunk of the credit goes to Carpenter, who supposedly more closely bases his script on the source material. Still, the original is far from unworthy, and...
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