Thread: 2009 End of Season - What is on your shovel prune list?
Started 2 months, 1 week ago by kentucky_rose
PROBABLY Raphaela and Equinox. After about 7 years, my Raphaela is still struggling (winter damage ea. yr.), had less than 10 nice roses this year. Equinox (had a few years) is slow to recycle. My blooms were just average or less. I saw a beautiful bloom at the Huntington Rose Show! Tough decisions. What are yours?
i wont destroy them but im trying to give to friends, my 3 pinata climbers, They were labeled pinata, with height and width info that made them 3 ft shrubs. I planted without researchiing them , then found out they were truly climbers. Even though they have bloomed their heads off and are completely disease free, i cant take the orange red combo. I dont know what came over me when i bought them, ...
Yellow Typhoon! Small unattractive blooms that fade, though hold on for a very long time and looking like old tissue papper. The bush itself has dull foliage, foliage that had burnt on the first hot day we had. It does bloom in abundance and looks okay when flowers are fresh and new, otherwise not worth the space it takes up. Terry
Having already shovel pruned about 40 roses over the last two years I'm hopeful that I'm close to the end. I did not know that many roses that did well almost everywhere would languish in my uniquely hot microclimate or would be poor bloomers. It took a while for that knowledge to sink in because there were certain roses I really wanted and just assumed they would do well. I know better now but ...
This is a subject that I can get into where to start. Oh ya PUERFUME DELIGHT might as well be a daylilly and a poor one at that. CHANGE OF HEART another member of the daylilly family and can you say blackspot magnet. And for me MEMORIAL DAY, I know some people have good luck with this rose but I've yet to cut a good bloom off this rose in two years, gotta go. OK enough ranting for now . Harold
Probably Moonstone, all of the blooms on my plant have split centers, and I can't take it anymore. And two roses that I think are now Manetti rootstock, my beloved Ginger Hill (got a new one from Roses Unlimited) and Attache (sniffle). And I lost my Pope John Paul II and Our Lady of Guadaloupe during the season, I'll probably replace both of them.
On my list are "Wild Blue Yonder"...I have 2 and one is not in a good location, Intrigue-very few blooms on a very small 2 year old plant. First Prize-a one cane wonder that just looks bad all the time. Topsy Turvy- New this year and a bloom machine, I just don't like the odd colored red with the white reverse, it looks like tissue paper to me. Sunsprite may go in favor of Shockwave. ...
I've already started culling the herd...two ROSE de RESCHTs went last week; they were absolutely huge JB magnets. Their foliage was also very hard to keep clean due to the damask-crud. CUTHBERT GRANT was also a huge JB magnet, had a very unpleasing form; RED SIMPLICITY (small, needed the room for better roses), & PINK KNOCKOUT also met Madame Shovel. On the list also for next spring are ...
I have started my SP list already, and here they are: Imperatrice Farah--Stingy and small blooms. Classic Touch--Disease magnet deluxe. Luscious--Non-vigorous and hardly blooms. Perfect Moment--Non-vigorous and hardly blooms. Prominent--Small bush and mini-flora sized blooms. Lady Bird--Small bush, few blooms, disease prone. Glowing Amber--Boring--getting rid of 1 of 2. Denver's ...
I think I will get rid of Wisley. This has been the first Austin that's been a total dud for me. A runt and full of BS. This was the Wisley purchased the year prior to DA announcing the new Wisley was "new and improved". I can see why he wanted to improve on Wisley.
Buck rose 'Serendipity.' It is a tall awkward plant with ringspot virus symptoms. The flower is not particularly attractive to me. It does have some practical virtues, but not enough to deserve a piece of my very limited rose real estate.
growing2010, there really is nothing wrong with the color of Carding Mill, and it definitely is not pale, but basically I'm not a huge fan of apricot roses and the shape of the rose does not wow me. It really is an excellent rose for hot, dry weather but for me it's just not exciting. That's such an individual thing, for you it could be just the opposite. It is constantly putting out new buds, no matter how hot it is, although...
I love my Honey Dijon as well. I got some of the most beautiful parchment colored blooms this Fall that were absolutely huge and had wonderful form. It did get a little BS, actually alot, but it healed up quickly when I got back in the spraying mode so all is fine on that end. I really love the Lady Bird blooms but that bush just will not keep any leaves on it at all. Maybe I will give it all of next year to mature some more and hopefully get...
Mauirose said, "Frederic Mistral-Big naked octopus. Poorly formed flowers, queer scent. Some have said its just a bad clone..." You must have a mutant. The scent is very sweet to most noses, and the flower form is very beautiful. True, it is susceptible to BS and a rampant grower that wants pruning all season (very deep deadheading).
I found another one to get rid of, altho it's in a pot, so won't actually have to be sp'd. It's yet another one of the many Hortico mis-marked roses. I got it last yr supposed to be DESERT ISLAND, a Dickson apricot fl, but it's some ugly looking semi-double lt pink thing that blows fast. I used to defend Hortico all the time when people would slam them. But no more. The last two yrs, I've had nothing but...
After reading through this thread, I'm really surprised. I thought roses tend to perform much better in the ground then in containers. It appears there's not much difference.
jumbojimmy my roses do vastly better in the ground than in pots. In a drier climate with lower humidity I think that is true. Pots dry out too fast here. My 'Tea Clipper' has been a poor bloomer as well. It's not really in a prime spot and has been disease free, so I've left it where it is. For now.
I wondered about the mention of CHIHULY also, John. Mine is just gorgeous - one of my best floribundas - which all goes to show that there are vast differences in how roses do in different locales. HONEY DIJON is also a great favorite of mine, and so far LADY BIRD is doing fine. I guess it's just a version of the old saying, "One man's meat is another's poison!"
LOVE - I just cant take the thorns.. will give to mom. JFK - ugly blooms that are never white and rot before opening European - mildew Double delight - rust, I have others that are great.. Sterling Silver - over 5 yrs and still wimpy White Lightnin - more huey than anything, cant get control.. Joseph's Coat - black spot Rio Samba - black spot Just lost a Herbie & a Scentsational due to a new sprinkler system install.. will probably...
I have some great roses on my shovel prune list, simply because they are not particularly good plants of really good roses. Perhaps I'll try a new plant of some. Going to the burn pile: Morden Blush (a really wonderful rose - perhaps mine is virused), Ambridge Rose, The Pilgrim and Pegesis (non-hardy rootstock is the problem with these - Wayside acquisitions before I knew better), a few potted hybrid teas that are too tender and too...
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