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Thread: 19lbs injectors + 2.7 + AFPR _ L-jetronic

Started 2 months ago by TONTON
Hey guys, never really clear about this topic, because everyone in America only uses motronic... and i have L-jetronic Well ive got a set of 19lbs injectors to fit the E30 - 4pintle etc etc. I have a adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and the adapter. Anyways, wondering what PSI should I set my AFPR at when I put in my injectors? My car also didnt come with ...
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Fuzznut replied 2 months ago
i run mine at 40psi, or 2 and-a-bit bar too little, fuel doesnt atomise, too much and your making the mixture way too rich. i've found with there being no o2 sensor on L-jet, that you have to break open the airflow meter and adjust the spring tension along with the fuel pressure to achieve the best results.

TONTON replied 2 months ago
Thanks for that, can you please take a picture of the settings on your AFM? Like I know how to adjust it, but dont know which setting is correct for it... Cheers

mecmw replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Fuzznut i run mine at 40psi, or 2 and-a-bit bar 2 bar is less than 30psi. 40psi is nearly 3 bar. 2.5 bar is normal for an l-jet Most injectors are rated at 3bar. So in order to get 19lbs from your 19lb injectors you should run it at 3bar. However, you may or may not want this......

TONTON replied 2 months ago
Yeah, I cant run it on a dyno yet... Well I am getting megasquirt at the end of the year... but I want to put these babies in ASAP! Hmm, well if fuzznut ran it at 40psi.. on L-jet im guessing it should be ok?

mecmw replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by TONTON Hmm, well if fuzznut ran it at 40psi.. I wouldn't be so sure. Was it 40psi or 2 and-a-bit bar? Fuzznut seems quite young, so you can probably take what he says with a pinch of salt (no offence young people ) At any rate it probably would be OK. Standard l-jet pressure ...

Fuzznut replied 2 months ago
one bar, is 15psi... afaik, or 14.5psi to be correct. standard L-jet fuel pressure is 2.5 bar, which is around the 37psi mark. i run mine at about 35. the airflow meter only does the injector pulse length, so your fuel pressure dictates your flow rate, the airflow meter determines just how much. with the larger injectors, i tuned this down a little bit, and got punchy response ...

TONTON replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
Ah ok... So I should change the PSI to 35PSI right? Not 40? Need to be 100%... dont want to blow up my old m20 =p

Stoney replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
1bar = 14.7psi I'd be going with 40psi, 35psi just seems too low to get a decent atomoisation of the injectors, considering some these days run upto 50-60psi in aftermarket setups However the only true way of knowing whether the injectors will spray the fuel properly at 35psi is by testing them on a bench setup (at the same time they get cleaned) Is there a reason you are going ...

TONTON replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
Well stock setup - not so sure how much it runs... But my current injectors are pretty old and need to be cleaned/rebuilt... so might aswell upgrade to the 19lbs... Stock injectors are like 12.5lbs?

Stoney replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
So straight away if you dont reduce the pressure of the fuel system you will be adding a shit load more fuel! around 50% Is there a reason why you need to do this? Does it run lean? that is really the only reason you fit larger injectors (spray pattern and other things aside) If it was my car personally, i'd be doing a bit of research on the stock setup, what pressure it runs, ...

 

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TONTON
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user's latest post:
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Published (2009-10-23 21:25:00)
AHHHHH i hate E30's srsly. the AFPR i bought doesnt work... gauge isnt working... so i put back in the stock one.. and its runing 2.5bar and turned the afm 3 clicks to lean. My car is now for sale aswell.
mecmw
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Published (2009-10-24 17:03:00)
Technically, the fuel pressure is measured relative to the MAP. Eg, if you have 60kPa of pressure in the manifold (ie, 40kPa of vacuum) and 300kPa of fuel pressure, then your fuel pressure will actually be 360kPa absolute (or 260 gauge pressure). The aim is to always have the same pressure drop across the injectors. That way 1ms of injector pulse always equates to the same amount of fuel regardless of what the engine is doing...
Fuzznut
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Published (2009-10-24 18:33:00)
i had the feeling that was the idea. otherwise every fuel pressure regulator would be a rising rate job.
Waterman
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Published (2009-10-22 10:36:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Waterman but the afm is registering that more air is being sucked in so the " basic calculation box " should adjust fuel accordingly... to a point. Do you think that the afm spring tension would work out conveniently enough so that you apply the above formula with spring tension increased to 1.17 *original tension? Fixed
Stoney
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Published (2009-10-23 12:38:00)
nah, you normally set the FPR to that setting at idle it does change under vacuum to allow higher pressure, for more fuel demand hence why you see different FPR's that have are rising rate regulators, esp on turbo cars, example a 1:1 rising rate - so for every extra pound of boost pressure the fuel pressure rises 1 pound But all settings are normally done at idle
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Published (2009-10-24 17:03:00)
Technically, the fuel pressure is measured relative to the MAP. Eg, if you have 60kPa of pressure in the manifold (ie, 40kPa of vacuum) and 300kPa of fuel pressure, then your fuel pressure will actually be 360kPa absolute (or 260 gauge pressure). The aim is to always have the same pressure drop across the injectors. That way 1ms of injector pulse always equates to the same amount of fuel regardless of what the engine is doing...
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i had the feeling that was the idea. otherwise every fuel pressure regulator would be a rising rate job.

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