Thread: 1979 bonneville first trip on the open road
Started 3 months, 1 week ago by ezraloomis
very much like the beginning of another 27 page post on here, I took my bonneville out for it's first real ride after finally changing the oil....
and now i've got a hole in my piston, guess i was running way too lean on one side and got too hot and well...that's the end of that. seemed to be running nicely up until that point when I lost power and that all happened, guess i did hear some ...
Thats some very bad news
It sucks having a bike you can't ride! So lets see what we can do to get it back on the road!
I think you can forget the idea of a second hand motor, it would probably cost you more than fixing you own.
First thing to do is tear the head off and access the damage to the head, cylinder bore, con rods etc. If you're (very) lucky you might get away with a new ...
Ezra,
That's a bummer! If you decide to start to attack it yourself, maybe we could be a two man support group. I have to take my head off for the first time soon and fix some things and we could help eachother through it.
if you can see the hole and it's not to big say a 1/4 to 3/8 you should be in good to go with new pistons and ring it's a easy job.
but you need find out why it did it to start with.i would pull the carbs. clean them and check the petcocks to. and like the other say clean out the block and the oil tank. i think 200 or less would do the job if you do the work yourself. theres a lot of help on ...
the D & E models used to put holes in pistons due to lean running caused by crimped/pluged air vent pipes in the carb. failure to flush the crank is a mistake.
Ezra,
Your unhappy plight is one experienced by many Triumph owners, yours truly included. Do not despair, it is not the end of the world nor your lovely '79 Bonneville. Your question for help raises more questions than answers at this stage, and these need to be addressed, if sound help is to follow. The quality of responding posts will be limited by the information that you provide.
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alll of the above..
don't junk the engine as your bike will be worth far more with the matching numbers than without.
I have done a top end rebuild and it's not hard to do but just needs a bit of patience and the correct tools.
I would have thought that less than £500 here would het you abck on the road. But you =do need to find the cause of the probl;em or it'll happen again
will take some pictures of what the piston looks like and will get back to you guys shortly on all the other things that might help out.
a few short things i can answer now before running off to work..
as far as the history of the engine, i don't think it has ever been rebuilt, if the speedo reading is correct it had just over 10k on it.
was running regular fuel in there
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Originally Posted by KADUTZ
the D & E models used to put holes in pistons due to lean running caused by crimped/pluged air vent pipes in the carb...
THIS is extremely enlightening.
Thank you very much. This condition exists on my bike right now. Is there a good substitute material to use to make new ...
While I don't think you should be concerned with having a bent valve, you could quite likely have deposits adhering to your valve faces & seats that need to be lapped out to remove.
If you are on a minimalist trek due to experience, budget and/or time considerations, you'd need no more than a top end gasket kit and a new set of pistons & rings. As I am the world's cheapest, I have been known...
I'm located in NYC, actually already have a shop manual and someone who could help me with the work. Just all the talk about getting in there and not cleaning things out thoroughly enough (such as not cleaning out the sludge trap) and the chance that problems could occur again down the line because of it has made me reluctant to take on the task. Has made me consider passing on the job to someone who will go all the way with it with a...
Where are you located Ezra? Have you tried to find a local classic bike shop, or a local motorcycle club? Do you have a friend, family or acquantence with some mechanical ability or works on cars, boats, go carts, small engines, etc.? A blown piston is not that uncommon and anyone with competence with motors has skills that would be transferable to swapping a piston in a bike engine if they had a manual. Get someone to help you out either as...
go for it. you've spent $2k on the bike and maybe $300 on other stuff. a decent set of spanners and a workshop manual won't set you back much and could be sold on if you give up. Start slowly, photograph and sketch everything as you take it aprt,bag or box it as you go and examine what the damage is. The weather (here) is closing in so turn on the radio and find out how it works. It ain't rocket science! It's scary how...
Removing the engine and flushing out the crankcase meticulously should get any bits & pieces out. Top end only is not a bad option, just one that COULD come back to bite you. Then again... '69 Bonnie race bike, scratch built with "semi-clean" looking engine of unknown history, raced 4 races (including practice sessions) in '07, 13 races in '08, 1 dyno run, plus a class record speed run at Bonneville...
Many thanks SP. Those are deffo missing off my bike. I can't see the middle ones without taking the tank off but the outer ones are not there and I'd assume neither are the middle ones. The stub tubes on the carbs look 'free' but I can't really tell. What worries me though is that there is no room to fit the pipes - the outer stub pipes on the carbs to which the air vent pipes attach point staright at the forward ends...
Hi ezraloomis, Do you really think it's a good idea to sell the bike? All you need is a weekend in the garage to do the top end, I'm sure it would not cost more than $500. As Dave says these things are not rocket science. I'm near the end of my first rebuild and I started off with a couple of boxes of parts! Don't be too hasty until you've had a good look at the motor and see how much it will really cost you. Webby
the D & E models used to put holes in pistons due to lean running caused by crimped/pluged air vent pipes in the carb. failure to flush the crank is a mistake.
Ezra, Your unhappy plight is one experienced by many Triumph owners, yours truly included. Do not despair, it is not the end of the world nor your lovely '79 Bonneville. Your question for help raises more questions than answers at this stage, and these need to be addressed, if sound help is to follow. The quality of responding posts will be limited by the information that you provide. The first thing here is to determine just what...
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