Any more Like Fairbairns "Get Tough??? | Thread profile

I saw a brief fairbairn sykes demo at Celtic Echange this year by Paul MacDonald and Mike Smith. It's interesting stuff though finding someone to train you in it would be a challenge now. The original commandoes would all be in their 80s I guess and I dunno if anyone kept the training going. The Bear.

On the "any more" front, I just purchased a copy of "American Combat Judo," considered to be among the cannon of WWII "Combatives," and expect to have it delivered to my house within a week or so. It's the original 1944 version, not the 1959 version that Paladin Press republished. I will add it to my list of books to republish (about 8 or 9 currently). Watch here for more details....

Hi all I've just bought Fairbairn's Get Tough,what a brilliant little book!!!! Some of the moves are similar to the Bujikan that I'm learning at the moment. I do think these books have a place and a use apart from just historical interest-there is only so many ways to puch,kick elbow ect I've also ordered Jack Dempsey's How to get Tough,can any of you experts please reconmend any other old style or historic slf...

The Science of Self Defence A Treatise on Sparring and Wrestling By Edmund Price 1867 http://www.geocities.com/cinaet/price.html The famous Farmer Burns Mail Order Course Scanned direct from a 1912 set of lessons http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/Competit...s/lesson01.htm Wrestling from Donald Walkers 1840 text "Defensive Exercises" http://www.geocities.com/cinaet/walker.html Historical Fencing Manuals Lots of them, from 13th...

Interesting but either my google fu is bust or I can't find a defendu club in the UK. A club inspired by defendu but no actual club claiming to do it. Now there is a nice little market for someone to spot. The Bear.

"Kill or Get Killed"

since there is the odd report in the media of 80yr olds taking down neds/chavs trying to mug them ... and it gets mentioned that the oldies were paras/commandos during the war ... think they remember the moves pretty well!

The drop step is not part of the Fairbairn legacy, it was Carl's contribution to combatives. You will not find any reference to the drop step in any of Fairbairn's books, nor see it in any film of Fairbairn. The drop step comes from Dempsey, no arguement there. The Dempsey book referred to by the OP does not explain the drop step, that comes from Championship Fighting. How to Fight Tough is a book on the techniques that Dempsey...

Mr. Ronin, thank you for the 'drop step' origin correct to my reply. Tom Kobela

Here are some great combatives books from the period you are interested in... all of these are available from Paladin Press... Cold Steel by John Styers American Combat Judo by B.J. Cosneck Combat Conditioning by Chuck Melson How to be an @$$ whipping boxer by J. C. "Champ" Thomas Boxings dirty tricks and outlaw killer punches by Champ Thomas take care, steve