9mm NATO WWB 1000 rds, $100!!! | Thread profile

9mm Para., 9mm Luger, 9mm NATO, and 9x19mm all use equivalent cases,however, 9mm NATO military ammunition is loaded to substantially higherpressures than most commercial varieties.

The USPSA power factor is not something I am highly familiar with, but fromwhat I have read, even at the higher rating, it would not move thisammo/gun into the "major" category, which seems to suggest that there isnothing overpowering about the ammo.The more I read about the whole "+p" and "+p+" and so on debate, the more Icome to the conclusion that it's really a lot of mental masturbation. WhatI mean is,...

>That book is misleading then

Quote: Originally Posted by einheit 13 well, so is the XD but you there is NO set pressure for a 'whomadeit' brand of NATO 9mm. Winchester doesn't make ammo, outside contractors do. I have some WWB made in Isreal (IMI), Czech (S&B), Great Britian, USA, and Spain. But guess what, Hertinberger 9mm "X" is nato ammo too. To be shot from machineguns only and can destroy the poly frames of handguns, but still marked...

Huh?

I fired thousands of rounds of the old S&B cupro nickle jacketed 9mm natothrough the CZ 75 I had in Germany in the 80's also ran about 1000Hirtenburgers through it. There was a special run that had hard primers andwas loaded for machine guns only but I havent seen that stuff available foryears. NATO marked 9mm should be safe to fire in any modern combat pistol.Hell the Germans used the P1 "alluminum framed P38" from the end...

I would stay away from it. NATO ammo isnot manufactured to SAMMI specs, it runsat a much higher pressure.But if you own anything in Class III, thengo for it!! thats a good price.Ed

My Hi Point carbine takes the 9mm nato winchester stuff without anyissues...

I've shot the "whitebox" NATO before, honestly it wasn't any different thanshooting those awful flippy 115s that everyone uses. Was a pain to cullthat damned NATO brass out for reloading too!More than likely, XDs over seas being used in military and police haveprobably already seen their share of this ammo and we'd be hearingsomething about it if there were XDs or HS2000 pistols blowing up/apartbecause of NATO ammo.

If you are familiar with power factors used in USPSA, WWB PF was 135 whilethe NATO PF was 154.