Thread posts in What will Diamond do to Bluegreen?:
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 17:27:00)
by BocaBum99
Now that Bluegreen has signaled it's intent to be acquired by Diamond Resorts, I'd like to get an idea of what they are likely to do when they become the resort developer and club manager. Can current Sunterra/Diamond owners provide us some insight? The Bluegreen Vacation Club operates a lot like the big Club trust of 14 or so resorts. In fact, I believe they are both created under the ...
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 20:12:00)
by Spence
Quote: Originally Posted by BocaBum99 Now that Bluegreen has signaled it's intent to be acquired by Diamond Resorts, I'd like to get an idea of what they are likely to do when they become the resort developer and club manager. Can current Sunterra/Diamond owners provide us some insight? The Bluegreen Vacation Club operates a lot ...
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 20:13:00)
by Jya-Ning
I guess only Mr. Steve C will be able to answer that. Be a devloper, I would guess BG hold rights to a lot of lands that can develope. Plus if he wants to consolidate two club into one, there is a lot of opportunities. But he may already found from the Diamond conversion what he can and can not expected If they do consolidate, it will be the biggest TS company. Jya-Ning
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 20:17:00)
by Spence
Sure was the day to own BG stock, not timeshares.
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 20:53:00)
by Jya-Ning
Quote: Originally Posted by Spence Sure was the day to own BG stock, not timeshares. Depends on when and how much you bought them. So not sure if I need cry or need happy. I guess I can happy. Spence, after Diamond, does anything changed from Sunterra's point of view (besides the name)? Jya-Ning
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 22:50:00)
by PeelBoy
As a Club member, what is the impact on me? More options/destinations and availability? Or, more people chasing after limited inventory?
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 23:15:00)
by Schooner
Now the hiring of all the high paid help makes some sense ... some empire building is underway. The legal, structural and financial business plan issues will no doubt steal the show in the short term. Hopefully, someone on the team in Nevada is well schooled in the "people side" of change management, and the fine art of balancing corporate, cultural and customer integration. This is precisely...
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-21 23:45:00)
by Maggie
This is just my opinion and I'm an optimist. If this deal actually happens, I am guessing that it will result in more options and opportunties being provided for current Bluegreen owners. In the short term I doubt they will do much to negatively impact existing Bluegreen owners because why would they want to piss off 200,000 plus customers who will potentially buy some kind of ...
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-22 14:27:00)
by Xolodno
Well.... When we were with Epic....good times...until they went belly up and the resorts went to pot and service hit the crapper. It looked like Bluegreen was going to eat Epic at that point...then Sunterra showed up in some sort of last minute bid and took the company (isn't ironic Bluegreen is now being eaten?). As an owner, well, we did have low maintenance fee's prior to the buyout......
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Started 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2008-07-23 10:14:00)
by rikkis_playpen
I have to admit I'm nervous, Jim... My concern and question is more to the effect of what legal rights do Bluegreen members really have- since the ownerships are not deeded but simply another form of trust. Will this give Diamond the ability to do virtually anything they want with the program? I would expect that BG members will have the right to choose if they join the Club, but.......... ...
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DRI Owner TO BG Owners
Published (2008-07-23 17:08:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Jya-Ning Thanks for the correction. My believe is, as long as the taker willing to pump the new development into the system, it will not hurt that system. If there is no new inventory added but existing possible inventory been pulled out, it will be bad, does not matter if the owner hold deeds or not. Not sure how Sunterra was constructed either, but I would think there are ways for both clubs share inventories...
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DRI Owner TO BG Owners
Published (2008-07-23 15:59:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by BocaBum99 This is incorrect. ALL Bluegreen Points are based on an underlying deeded week and unit number. Thanks for the correction. My believe is, as long as the taker willing to pump the new development into the system, it will not hurt that system. If there is no new inventory added but existing possible inventory been pulled out, it will be bad, does not matter if the owner hold deeds or not. Not sure how...
user's latest post:
What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-08-02 23:10:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by dale7 A BG person would get first choice for BG up until 10 months then the rest would be for the DRI Club and depending how many BG people join DRI Club. This is the second posting I have read about a "10 month" rule. Why 10 months?
user's latest post:
What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-07-28 22:18:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by jimbee The only current way into THE Club is option 3 above. What? Do you mean the only current retail way into THE Club is option 3?
user's latest post:
What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-08-03 18:54:00)
The big difference in the Sunterra acquisition was that the acquiring private owners really didn't own much except Polo Towers, so when they bought Sunterra and renamed it DRI all they really needed to do was 'tweak' the Club Sunterra system and call it "THE Club". The transition was pretty seamless to us existing Club Sunterra members, so no 'transfer fees' etc. were required. Now, however, every...
user's latest post:
What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-08-02 21:22:00)
When did the Sunterra buy-out occur? It began early in 2007 and was finalized last fall. DRI already was making changes and influencing actions before then. Q - Was Sunterra points based? Sunterra had various types of ownership. 1. Some owned one or more deeded weeks in a Diamond Resorts timeshare resort. They have to make trades through RCI or II. 2. Some who own deeded weeks have joined THE Club. This was the way THE Club (originally Club...
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What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-07-23 12:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by BocaBum99 This is incorrect. ALL Bluegreen Points are based on an underlying deeded week and unit number. It is NOTHING like WorldMark. If anything, it is more like Fairfield with the exception that the deeds are held in trust instead of directly by the owners. But, owners have fundamental owner beneficiary rights based on those exact deeds, so owners don't own points that are disbodied from the underlying...
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What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-07-23 12:51:00)
I like what DRI has done, since they acquired Sunterra, the resorts options have increased significantly (some Raintree, possibly BG) and the quality of the older resorts have been improved as well. I've been to BG resorts and I would say that I believe Diamond resorts on the whole are a bit more upscale, exceptions do exist. However the resort locations of the BG resorts offer quite a bit of value to DRI. I for one thought of purchasing...
user's latest post:
DRI Owner TO BG Owners
Published (2008-07-23 14:44:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by BocaBum99 Doug, I echo your thoughts. I think it will take a while before the Clubs can or will be merged. I do think they will remain distinct.... just like Fairfield and WorldMark are still distinct. I agree that Sunterra resorts have higher quality furnishings from Bluegreen on average. Either they can be brought up to a higher standard with higher resulting fees. Or, there could be 2 tiers of product in a...
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What will Diamond do to...
Published (2008-08-03 09:44:00)
Jimbee, great answers. I had many of the same questions. Of course with the possible BG purchase, some things will be different, some things will be similar. With your answers, I have a better idea of what might happen.
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