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Title: Shots from Fridays Game with 300 2.8
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Forum: Sports  Sports - forum profile
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 03:18:00)  by acidburn_85
Shots from Fridays Game with 300 2.8 This was my first attempt at football action with my new 300 2.8 IS. C&C Welcomed...This is also my second attempt at using a prime for sports. __________________ .:: www.AlexGilliard.com:: . 40D, 20D, 17-55 2.8 IS, 100 2.8, 70-200L 2.8 IS,...
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 03:18:00)  by acidburn_85
This was my first attempt at football action with my new 300 2.8 IS. C&C Welcomed...This is also my second attempt at using a prime for sports.
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 06:37:00)  by GP Images
Were these hand held? Colors are great but they are not sharp. Not sure if it's camera shake or motion blur, what were the camera settings? __________________ http://gpimages.smugmug.com/
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 06:43:00)  by acidburn_85
No they were on a monopod it is motion blur they were shot at 1/250@2.8 ISO 1600 Quote: Originally Posted by GP Images Were these hand held? Colors are great but they are not sharp. Not sure if it's camera shake or motion blur, what were the camera settings? __________________ .:: www...
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 06:52:00)  by jjvfx
I mainly shoot sports and have been to some of the worst lighting America has to offer. I wouldn't go under 1/320 and maybe try bringing the ISO up to 3200. I bet you could do 1/400 at 2.8 with ISO 3200 Jordan
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Started 3 months ago (2008-09-03 08:07:00)  by johng
OK - looks like you're already using flash. But you're not stopping the action so you're exposure is too close to ambient. Drop your ISO to 800 and you should get better freeze of the action.
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Started 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2008-09-04 07:16:00)  by mercphoto
Quote: Originally Posted by johng OK - looks like you're already using flash. But you're not stopping the action so you're exposure is too close to ambient. Drop your ISO to 800 and you should get better freeze of the action. At 1/250 a second I can't remember if you have to go to high-speed-sync on the flash or not. You should NOT...
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Started 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2008-09-04 07:16:00)  by mercphoto
Quote: Originally Posted by johng OK - looks like you're already using flash. But you're not stopping the action so you're exposure is too close to ambient. Drop your ISO to 800 and you should get better freeze of the action. At 1/250 a second I can't remember if you have to go to high-speed-sync on the flash or not. You ...
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Started 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2008-09-04 08:42:00)  by rockcanyonphotos
Quote: Originally Posted by mercphoto At 1/250 a second I can't remember if you have to go to high-speed-sync on the flash or not. You should NOT be using high-speed sync as this will not help you freeze the action. John has a good point -- drop the ambient exposure and let the flash fire harder. I am curious... why do you NOT want...
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Started 2 months, 4 weeks ago (2008-09-04 08:50:00)  by johng
Quote: Originally Posted by rockcanyonphotos I am curious... why do you NOT want to use high-speed sync? I have always used it... but then I will never admit to being real versed in the correct use of flash.... so I really would like to know the reasoning behind it, I just always assumed you wanted it for high shutter-speeds. thanks, Kevin...
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mercphoto
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user's latest post:
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Published (2008-09-04 09:43:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by rockcanyonphotos I am curious... why do you NOT want to use high-speed sync? I have always used it... but then I will never admit to being real versed in the correct use of flash.... so I really would like to know the reasoning behind it, I just always assumed you wanted it for high shutter-speeds. thanks, Kevin Well, you do need hi-speed synch for high shutter speeds. However, in your case, in lighting that dim,...
acidburn_85
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Published (2008-09-03 06:43:00)
No they were on a monopod it is motion blur they were shot at 1/250@2.8 ISO 1600 Quote: Originally Posted by GP Images Were these hand held? Colors are great but they are not sharp. Not sure if it's camera shake or motion blur, what were the camera settings? __________________ .:: www.AlexGilliard.com:: . 40D, 20D, 17-55 2.8 IS, 100 2.8, 70-200L 2.8 IS, 300L 2.8 IS, Plus a ton of strobist gear and studio lights.
johng
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Published (2008-09-04 08:50:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by rockcanyonphotos I am curious... why do you NOT want to use high-speed sync? I have always used it... but then I will never admit to being real versed in the correct use of flash.... so I really would like to know the reasoning behind it, I just always assumed you wanted it for high shutter-speeds. thanks, Kevin It drastically reduces the reach of the flash.
rockcanyonphotos
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Published (2008-09-04 20:33:00)
HOLY CRAP!! That is probably the clearest and most concise explanation I have ever heard. I wish I had asked this question a few years ago. As I think back over the last few years of shooting high school football, in the context of this information....it makes a lot of sense, and also explains a lot of my frustrations. Bob, Bill, thanks for taking the time to explain this is such great detail. regards, Kevin
bobcool
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Published (2008-09-04 13:23:00)
To wrap up what Bill said: Put your camera on 800 ISO, 1/250th (or whatever is your max sync speed) Adjust aperture(if 800 ISO isn't enough to bring exposure down to -1 from ambient) until you get around one stop under ambient Disable high-speed sync Put flash on manual mode Set flash to 1/4 power (this is a starting point) Shoot some test shots, adjust flash power as necessary When you use this method, the duration of the flash becomes...
BCSPhotoguy
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Published (2008-09-05 05:25:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by bobcool To wrap up what Bill said: Put your camera on 800 ISO, 1/250th (or whatever is your max sync speed) Adjust apeture(if 800 ISO isn't enough to bring exposure down to -1 from ambient) until you get around one stop under ambient Disable high-speed sync Put flash on manual mode Set flash to 1/4 power (this is a starting point) Shoot some test shots, adjust flash power as necessary When you use this method,...
donek
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Published (2008-09-05 11:04:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by mercphoto Well, you do need hi-speed synch for high shutter speeds. However, in your case, in lighting that dim, you never will get high shutter speeds. Fundamental question: 1) do you know how a shutter works? 2) do you know how the flash fires when not in high speed sync? 3) do you know why this limits the max shutter speed when a flash is used? And 4) do you know why the high-speed synch feature gets around this...
jjvfx
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Published (2008-09-03 06:52:00)
I mainly shoot sports and have been to some of the worst lighting America has to offer. I wouldn't go under 1/320 and maybe try bringing the ISO up to 3200. I bet you could do 1/400 at 2.8 with ISO 3200 Jordan
GP Images
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Published (2008-09-03 06:37:00)
Were these hand held? Colors are great but they are not sharp. Not sure if it's camera shake or motion blur, what were the camera settings? __________________ http://gpimages.smugmug.com/