A Sunni Muslim Said : "i Don'y Believe In Imamat.. | Thread profile

I can prove that its Kufr (rejection) simply by qouting the Quran and Hadith of the Prophet (SAAS). Shall we proceed?

A clear verse from the Quran is not good enough for you? Yes, I have a tafsir that is the hadith of the Prophet (SAAS), if Quran is not sufficient. Be warned! Quran is not something that should be thrown behind your back in the name of his or her tafsir. This is a dangerous game that some of you play when a clear verse hits you in the face. Yasin 36: 12 إِنَّا نَحۡنُ ...

Assalamwalaikum, I'm not playing a dangerous game with Tafsir. Using Tafsir is playing it safe, so I know what the verse is actually saying. If you read the Quran straight through, of course you won't know the situation and history of why it was revealed. However, by using the tafsir, you are given an insight to the verse. Also, you giving a hadeeth from one of your imams isn't going to ...

" its intricacies cannot be cleared except through itself " - Ali about Quran, nahjul balagha.

Kitab means book. Imam means leader. Now you are rejecting Quran and arguing with a mistranslation. That is an act of Kufr.

Unbelief, with a clear state of mind, in the Imamah after been given clear evidence is Kufr. Otherwise, it's not. Check this thread; http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?showtopic= 234948590

QUOTE (hosaini @ Jul 14 2008, 07:14 PM) Why is it that Shias always confer the title Imam to Ali but never to Muhammad even though he was an Imam? He is always addressed with the "lesser" titles of nabi or rasul... Salaam. This is blatant ignorance. The title of "Rasoolullah" refers to a higher station than Imamah. But there are degrees of Risalah as well as degrees of ...

Assalamwalaikum, Well, where is the doctrine of the Imamat? Tell me that. If the Imamah is central to Islam, as the Quran is to Islam, then the Imamah doctrine will be found in the Quran. Show me actual proof that the Imamat system is key to being a Muslim. You can find verses like: QUOTE (2:98) Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and messengers, to Gabriel and Michael,- Lo!...

QUOTE (bakr_umar @ Jul 13 2008, 12:42 PM) salam, A Sunni Muslim said : "I don'y believe in Imamat so I am not a Muslim ? Because according to your Shias ahadith, a person who don't believe in Imamat is not a Muslim." Sunnis are not Muslim ? At least not according to the quran: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?sh...p;#en try1357901

QUOTE (zuhair_naqvi @ Jul 15 2008, 02:27 AM) At least not according to the quran Our hadiths show they are Muslims, also if not Muslims, then you accusing Al-Jewad of marrying a disbeliever.