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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-21 23:12:00)
by Lord_Asmodeus
How would a Khornate Berzerker fare against A Balor as seen in D&D, this fight will be on even ground (literally a flat even ground) with no advantages either way, they both have all of their abilities, the Khorne Berzerker gets a chainaxe and a bolt pistol, and the Balor gets a large axe/sword and any non-magical/limited magical armor or the Berserker gets no armor and neither does the Balor...
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 01:31:00)
by Eita
Is the Berserker Favored by Khorne?
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 03:01:00)
by WNxHasoroth
To be honest a Balor sounds and looks like a Khornate Daemon if anything. Bloodletter versus a 'Zerker? Bloodletter.
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 08:55:00)
by Revlid
Quote: Originally Posted by Eita Is the Berserker Favored by Khorne? That's pretty much their definition.
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 11:29:00)
by Lord_Asmodeus
Quote: Originally Posted by WNxHasoroth To be honest a Balor sounds and looks like a Khornate Daemon if anything. Bloodletter versus a 'Zerker? Bloodletter. I'm not so sure, and you do realize Khornate daemons are made to look like the common view of Daemons on purpose, which is what Balors also look like. And A ...
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 11:42:00)
by sikyon
Balor wins, it's CR20. Khornate breserker is way weaker. It's just a super-frenzied space marine. Balor is probably around bloodthirster level, would be my guess. If the breserker is Khârn the Betrayer, however, Kharn edges out on top. Angron would kick the crap out of a bloodthirsters. Normal Space marines are probably like CR 5, tops.
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 11:49:00)
by Zenos
Quote: Originally Posted by sikyon Balor wins, it's CR20. Khornate breserker is way weaker. It's just a super-frenzied space marine. Balor is probably around bloodthirster level, would be my guess. If the breserker is Khârn the Betrayer, however, Kharn edges out on top. Angron would kick the crap out of a ...
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 11:56:00)
by GoC
Quote: Originally Posted by sikyon Normal Space marines are probably like CR 5, tops. I'd guess SMs are a 10hd LA +4 race. They're easily as powerful as a triceratops. That said CR 10 is still less than CR 20. Zenos: He meant without equipment.
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 12:00:00)
by onasuma
@ /\: I believe thats how they are in warhammer 40k d20 system (correct me if im wrong). However fluff wise from gamesworkshop, a single marine is more than a match for hundreds of guard (not in the game, however). Id say a marine, especially a chaos one (assuming he hasnt gone mad) would be like La +20, at least in normal d&d. Marine wins. Very easily
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Started 1 year, 5 months ago (2008-01-22 12:02:00)
by Zenos
Quote: Originally Posted by GoC I'd guess SMs are a 10hd LA +4 race. They're easily as powerful as a triceratops. That said CR 10 is still less than CR 20. Zenos: He meant without equipment. They can still survive against bolters (aka submachine gun version of a grenade launcher) with about as much ability as...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-24 18:58:00)
Yes Balor were probably based in part on Balrogs, and their names start with Bal, but they AREN'T THE SAME, Balrogs are actually supposed to be tougher than Balrogs if I remember correctly, I mean Balrogs are essentially immortal aren't they? not so with Balors, they can die.
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-22 20:04:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus You obviously know very little about space marines... Who, me? Power armor strength is taken from the very concept of power armor: It's litterally "Powered Armor". It powers itself. Definition. Most of that power is used to move itself. Space Marines are not genetically engineered. Index Astrates lists no actual genetic modifications to Space Marines. Only the Primarchs were...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-24 19:16:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus Yes Balor were probably based in part on Balrogs, and their names start with Bal, but they AREN'T THE SAME, Balrogs are actually supposed to be tougher than Balrogs if I remember correctly, I mean Balrogs are essentially immortal aren't they? not so with Balors, they can die. I thought Gandalf killed one? Anyway you can't tell if they're tougher because noone tested which sized...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-22 20:17:00)
Space Marines are NOT homo sapiens. When was the last time you saw a person that could spit acid, was totally immune to virtually all normal diseases, and had multiples of every vital organ? The official rulebook and codices flat-out state that Space Marines can no longer be considered human. So I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
user's latest post:
A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-22 11:49:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by sikyon Balor wins, it's CR20. Khornate breserker is way weaker. It's just a super-frenzied space marine. Balor is probably around bloodthirster level, would be my guess. If the breserker is Khârn the Betrayer, however, Kharn edges out on top. Angron would kick the crap out of a bloodthirsters. Normal Space marines are probably like CR 5, tops. And the termies are which CR then? Remember these guys can...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-24 19:19:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus Yes Balor were probably based in part on Balrogs, and their names start with Bal, but they AREN'T THE SAME, Balrogs are actually supposed to be tougher than Balrogs if I remember correctly, I mean Balrogs are essentially immortal aren't they? not so with Balors, they can die. The elves are immortal too, yet they can be slain. Also, Gandalf manages to kill that particular Balrog. You have to...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-22 15:04:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Zenos You've not seen the scene in DoW: WA where a chaplain beats up a bloodthirster (all in a days work), have you? Thats to make the game fair, not acurate. Also @ /\: i was trying to find those in my collection. They were 500 points ish if i remember, and could take out a baneblade with relitive ease
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-23 15:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by sikyon What?!?! S35 and T31? What are you talking about? S40 for a space marine? What?! What rules system are you using? <snipped other stuff> Quote: Originally Posted by sikyon Apparently you tried to directly convert a balor's D&D 35 str and 31 con into 35 str and 31 toughness into inquisitor directly. That's a boo-boo. Unless you actually meant 31 con instead of T and you...
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A Khornate Berzerker vs A Balor
Published (2008-01-23 07:36:00)
Quote: Go read your Index Astrates and every piece of fluff describing how a space marine is made again I think perhaps you should go take a look, specifically the sections which look at physiological changes not attributal to Space marine organs. A key point is that their blood types all match, any marine can donate to his battle brothers, regardless of their original blood type, as well as the use of genetic material from Primarchs or some...
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