Is modern Wushu REALLY all that different from traditional kung fu? | Thread profile

In the past, I've had a prejudice against modern Wushu. I used to believe that it was a degeneration and corruption of "traditional" and "genuine" kung fu. But now I am not so sure anymore. I have just read Meir Shahar's new book and it's made me do a lot of re-thinking. Is there REALLY such a big distinction? Or is it just a matter of dates? Both modern wushu and traditional ...

I have been reading plenty of FQ's posts and his stuff has really struck home with me. I tend to think that Wushu is different from TCMA in the same way that Judo is different from JJJ. That being said, if I got back into CMA, I would do Wushu, because most Wushu programs include San Da. The forms in Wushu are just as effective for developing fighting ability as the forms in TCMA: ...

PHP Code: because most Wushu programs include San Da . Certainly not the case in this country, and indeed the inverse is true, most San Da groups are part of TCMA groups. Quote: The methods in Wushu include live training, protective gear, better strength and conditioning tools, etc. Most ...

Quote: Originally Posted by Sifu Ben PHP Code: because most Wushu programs include San Da . Certainly not the case in this country, and indeed the inverse is true, most San Da groups are part of TCMA groups. Most people on the forms programme NEVER do the Sanda programme and ...

Quote: Originally Posted by CraidD Both modern wushu and traditional kung fu have punches, kicks, stances etc. I think you'd get just as strong and flexible by doing modern wushu as you would in traditional kung fu. A horse stance is a horse stance, and a kick is a kick. In straight away movements the forms ...

Actually I take that back - I know that 19thlohans school up in Boston has a San Da program.

I would have to say most of the Wushu schools in the US have little to none San Da/San Shou programs. My Kwoon has a small program with about 3 to 6 serious fighters who compete in Muay Thai organized fights as well as other kuoshu based events. I would consider my kwoon a traditional one. My Sifu though has always embraced the full contact fighting aspect since the 60's. When I ...

Zak "Crash" Buscia is from a TCMA school (Bak Mei) and won his first amateur MMA fight: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6E5bMiv6EXI It's not San Da. It's better than San Da My old school is taking part and placing pretty well in Pankration: http://fightleague.org/images/Result......

Sadly, "san da" is now used in many cases simply as a re-naming of "sparring", so TCMA classes that did "sparring" now do "san da". Like alot of things in CMA, there's a lot of lies to untangle to get to the truth. Good level Mainland Chinese san da is a fairly specific skill set, with a characteristic set of movements and techniques. On the other hand, sure, san da could mean simply ...

Quote: Originally Posted by Fire-quan Sadly, "san da" is now used in many cases simply as a re-naming of "sparring", so TCMA classes that did "sparring" now do "san da". . Traditional schools have been calling their sparring sanda for thousands of years. If anybody wanted to make the modern sport version of ...