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Title: XD Trigger work and CCW
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Forum: General HS2K SA-XD Talk   General HS2K SA-XD Talk - forum profile
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 07:36:00)  by Markthemagic
Hi All, I have seen many posts about XD trigger upgrades to reduce take up, etc. Is part of the design safety on the XD a long trigger pull and if so, should this type of trigger work be done on a carry weapon? Also, how does this impact any legal issues if, God forbid, you are ever involved in a shooting incident? Thanks,
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 07:45:00)  by mattjohnston87
Can't comment on the legal issues because I am not a lawyer, and I just simply don't know. The XD is designed NOT to fire untill the trigger AND the backstrap safety are depressed, at the same time. In other words, it should NOT matter that one has improved the trigger pull and weight on the pistol, because the gun will not fire untill it is depressed. Doesn't matter if it is 8 pounds or 4...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 08:46:00)  by Verk
Obviously not an authority on the legal issues but I believe it could be a problem. That being said, I have always been told that it is best to not do any trigger work on a carry gun. The fact is, there are no shortage of attorneys that will seize on any modifications made to your pistol and try to use it in front of a jury that more than likely, are not gun savvy people.
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 08:47:00)  by LKB3rd
I'm not a lawyer either, and i'd recomend asking one who is willing to defend you if it ever becomes an issue. That said: I've heard both opinions on lightening the trigger. Some say a justified shooting is a justified shooting, and others say that an anti-gun prosecutor will paint you as someone who made his gun easier to kill with, and are therefore looking for an opportunity to use it. ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 08:54:00)  by XDAndMe
Pertaining to trigger jobs, I'm curious how they would actually know? Do they bring in a competent professional armorer to disassemble the gun and testify that it has been modified? If so, how does that prove that the modification was done to the knowledge of the owner? Let's say the owner paid for the modification with a money order and did not leave any e-mails or paper trails. ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 09:49:00)  by Sangiovese
Apply the usual "not a lawyer" disclaimers... It seems to me that trigger modifications would only come into play if you were being charged with accidentally discharging the gun and injuring someone. In that case, they could claim that you made the gun less safe and more prone to an accidental discharge via the trigger job. In a self defense case, I can't see how it would matter. In ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 10:28:00)  by 021411
Put it this way.. One of my off duty carry guns is a 1911 with a 3.75# trigger pull. In a hypothetical shooting... Is my life/safety in danger? Yes Did I intend to shoot my threat? You bet. Was it a conscious decision on my part? Hell yes. And the ONLY time I had my finger on the trigger was when all the elements were there. 1. Threat identified 2. Sight picture/alignment 3. ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 10:39:00)  by Bilt4Comfort
Quote: Originally Posted by 021411 Put it this way.. One of my off duty carry guns is a 1911 with a 3.75# trigger pull. In a hypothetical shooting... Is my life/safety in danger? Yes Did I intend to shoot my threat? You bet. Was it a conscious decision on my part? Hell yes. And the ONLY time I had my finger on the trigger was ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 10:42:00)  by slugger6
Quote: Originally Posted by XDAndMe Pertaining to trigger jobs, I'm curious how they would actually know? Do they bring in a competent professional armorer to disassemble the gun and testify that it has been modified? If so, how does that prove that the modification was done to the knowledge of the owner? Let's say the owner ...
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Started 1 year, 9 months ago (2007-10-07 10:52:00)  by XDAndMe
Quote: Originally Posted by slugger6 I am not an attorney, but that sounds like perjury to me...typically a felony. Yes, it is. It's a hypothetical question. How do they know in the first place, and how can they prove it was done by the owner?
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Bill in San Jose
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user's latest post:
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Watch Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testimony for a great listing or answers to questions you don't want to answer. I'd say &quot;I'm upset and don't recall right now&quot; and then &quot;I'm feeling pains in my chest and want to go to the hospital right now&quot;.
Massad Ayoob
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Hi Kraigster... It's my understanding that even though Glock recently changed the nomenclature on the 3.5 lb connector, it's still the same part that they've spent years adamantly telling police armorers NOT to install in duty guns. Therefore, it would carry the same baggage as before. I for one would not want to have it in one of my carry guns. All my personal carry Glocks have the NY-1 trigger system. When the 3.5 pound...
LongRider
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Quote: Originally Posted by Massad Ayoob Spoke to the folks at Springfield Armory this past week. According to their Dave Williams, 4 1/4 pounds is their absolute MINIMUM trigger pull for an XD pistol intended for duty or self-defense purposes. Thank you very much for your insight and research. I hope you will chime in on other issues here as you see fit
bountyhunter
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Quote: Originally Posted by LongRider Point is DO NOT talk to the police without an attorney or you may regret it. Yep. And the first thing any attorney will tell you to do is SHUT UP and don't talk to the police at all.....
Loves2Shoot
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Published (2007-11-03 17:33:00)
From the center of the trigger, that would be plenty light.
Gryff
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Quote: Originally Posted by LongRider Oh WAIT CAN YOU SEE THAT? My trigger job will be 4 oz. as in FOUR ounces MORE than some stock triggers. Springer Precision trigger jobs for carry guns is four to five pounds. CAN YOU SEE THAT? That is 4 ounces to 1 pound four ounces MORE than some stock triggers. Canyon Creek trigger jobs for carry guns is four to seven pounds. WAIT CAN YOU SEE THAT? That is 4 ounces to 3 pounds four ounces MORE than some...
Moe C.
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Published (2007-10-23 00:19:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by LongRider Thanks I think. Gomer has a valid point, if you do nothing you risk nothing. Certainly. Only a moron would argue against the obvious fact that if you don't mess with the trigger you can't get in trouble for messing with the trigger. Quote: Originally Posted by LongRider My point of course is you risk nothing getting a quality trigger job with a reasonable weight as provided by Springer Precision...
Sdevante
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As an aside... this debate could end quickly if somebody would take their gun with a modified trigger and go shoot somebody with it. lol
GOMER
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Quote: Originally Posted by LongRider I did e-mail Mr Massad Ayoob and it appears he is going to join us share his expert opinion with us. Thanks for bringing Massad into the discussion, I hope that some of you head his advice.
LKB3rd
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Published (2007-10-23 11:37:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by a6fan Whenever you are involved with the police concerning a serious (possibly depriving you of your liberty or many thousands of dollars) criminal or civil matter you should have a lawyer present PRIOR to answering ANY questions from the police or anyone else for that matter. DO NOT make any statement at the scene to anyone. Cooperate physically but decline to answer ANY questions. As for trigger jobs - I would...

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