Why The Hand, Why The Cradle- Surely Its Shirk! | Thread profile

QUOTE (The Power Of 14 @ Aug 4 2008, 09:19 PM) 786-92-110 Dear Brothers n Sisters, I hpe u all are in the Best of Health, Inshallah Okay i know this may not sound convicing enuff but jus about an hour ago i was speaking 2 one of my uncle's a 'so called Sunni', n he asked me a question, well more like he stated it, anyways I gave him a ok/good answer, but i felt it was all ...

^I don't think anyone calls it a part of the religion. It is separate, however it helps us to develop love for the leaders of our religion. Whats wrong with that?

QUOTE (iraqi_shia @ Aug 5 2008, 08:37 AM) and your preference for unrefferenced stories and urban myths amazes me. go and ask an Aalim to get the reference QUOTE Show us where the Imams AS made cradles and hands and danced around horses etc etc. if u call that dancing, then i call your rubbish posts here as nothing but virtual diarrhea show me where they wore western...

Okay eventhough no one's explained this to me I think I may understand it. Your uncle is sunni and he has most likely heard the stories where the Sahaba would almost go crazy to try and get some water off Nabi after he would do wudhu and wipe it upon themselves as a means to get blessing....same concept applies? Also kinda how Umar and Abu Bakr wanted to be burried next to Nabi ...

ok guys take a step back. breathe, relax. listen, ill try and keep this short as possible. (1) just about anything we do in islam has a symbolic meaning, for example we do qurbani to symbolise we would make the same decision as hazrat ibraheem, in hajj we run between saffa and marwa to symbolise bibi hajra (sa) running to find water for her son, when in namaz when we go into sajda, ...

brother mdm its always a joy read ur responses, mashallah, may Allah reward you more

Thanks for answering the question bro MDM. So the hand signifies the panjatan?

Shirk is not touching a wooden object. Shirk is associating Allah or his attributes with creation, thus disassociating Allah. We know nothing of what went on in that meeting. If the persons present in this type of gathering were there to deify any of the Imams or anything linked with them; I would totally quote QUOTE It sounds like the type of innovation that is ruining shiasm, ...

Im glad you all agree and realise that these practices are separate from the religion, and no teaching of the religion has mentioned any such practice. It appears to be a cultural thing. QUOTE But if the persons present were either making a symbolic point or telling stories of the Imams as.gif with good intentions, then there is no fault at all. They appear to be be trying to ...

QUOTE (iraqi_shia @ Aug 5 2008, 07:11 PM) Im glad you all agree and realise that these practices are separate from the religion, and no teaching of the religion has mentioned any such practice. Your perception is skewed. It is the heart and soul of religion. Symbolism. Read mdm's post. QUOTE they didnt make bollywood films and walk on hot coals etc etc. when you do ...