Net firms in music pirates deal [UK] | Thread profile

Quote: Originally Posted by Iscariot Yeah, because legitimate users going through legitimate uses never got screwed over, right? It's not nearly so black and white, Mr. Hayes. You're right that it's not black and white, but the sentiment is correct, if people weren't so blasé about theft these steps wouldn't need to be taken.

I'm curious - did anyone ever get (or know someone who got) one of these letters? Edit: I just updated my blog with a post about this - would be interested to know if you have any comments

Quote: Six of the UK's biggest net providers have agreed a plan with the music industry to tackle piracy online. The deal, negotiated by the government, will see hundreds of thousands of letters sent to net users suspected of illegally sharing music. But the music industry wants people's internet cut off if they ignore repeated warnings, something the web firms say they are not prepared to do. The six firms are due to be named when...

This is stupid, and the system is flawed. First, people who really know what they are doing that encrypt their P2P connections/use proxies or get programs that sort it out for them, so fairly soon this function will be standard on all P2P software making the new BPI thing useless. Second, a security company proved that its possible to make it look like someone else did it by fooling the BPI in to thinking a printer downloaded Iron Man. Third,...

Quote: Originally Posted by mpw Ask a random 100 people who have downloaded copyrighted material why they chose to break the law and I'm betting you'll hear(if they give honest answers) up there in the popular answers will be; "Because I have no money" "Because I didn't want to pay" "I didn't know it was wrong" "Because I thought/knew I could get away with...

Quote: Originally Posted by DAC47 people will just go to smaller ISP's who don't care what your downloading I disagree. Smaller ISPs are probably under more pressure to bow to the requests of the music industry, as they don't have the resources to fight back if they don't conform. Larger ISPs may stand a better chance after saying "No thanks", and generally have a louder public voice.

I read an article about this last week somewhere here on macrumors.... It was about virgin solely, but 6 ISPs is new to me. Anyway the article detailed that virgin would examine how much content was being downloaded and if they feel it to be excessive then a letter would be sent. How on earth they will know what is being downloaded is beyond me.... They can send a letter and I would just reply that all my downloads come from a combination of...

Quote: Originally Posted by mpw I'm not keen on having ISPs read the traffic I pass through their network, but I think that if there's a way it could be done specifically to find illegal activity then it would be reasonable. There's no guarantee to identify which files are copyrighted and which are not. Let say, for example, a small time musician decided to let users download his music free of charge through p2p, websites etc...

Quote: Originally Posted by mpw Stealing has no place in the 'free market', Tesco don't combat shoplifting by making everything free. Nor does the idea that you are guilty until they check up on you. Imagine if every time you shopped at Tesco you were searched and your items scrutinised.

Actually thinking about this, its probably a good way for the ISPs to boot some of the high usage customers they hate so much. "if you downloaded 100gb a month, some of it must be copyrighted music"