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user's latest post:
Another reason to Circumcise...
Published (2009-12-19 21:35:00)
"Those poor souls, they must feel so violated and lost." I'm sure they do. What concept of immortality can they possibly understand at that age? It demonstrates the power of parental belief in cultural myths visited on innocent, bewildered?little boys. And now?I see some validity in your remark (below). "I can't condemn that culture though as being any more barbaric than our own, as we sacrifice our boys every single...
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Sad story from Brazil
Published (2009-12-18 12:47:00)
It's because they can.? They can't do these things to adults.? They also think they can get away with it.? If this had been?advocated by a religious leader, it would most likely have become accepted by the adherents of the religion and would have become widespread and common place in that religion.? Witness what happened in Jonestown, Ghianna. There are commonalities with our issue.? It began as a religious practice and then spread...
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Another reason to Circumcise...
Published (2009-12-19 21:59:00)
Yes, I only use the word 'barbaric' because I think it is probable that most Americans would view the video and be disgusted, or feel what is being done to those boys is barbaric.? My statement is meant to only point out that the reason most Americans feel so strongly is because it is not within our cultural norm to take a 5/6/7 year old and circumcise him in the same manner we circumcise our newborn infants.? Yet, our infants are...
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Medical benefits vs risk
Published (2009-12-18 03:16:00)
"I?have seen no reports of Israelis coming to The US to promote circumcision.? I do know the perpetrators of the fraudulent "African studies" are touring the country promoting circumcsion.? Dr. Dean Edell stated that a majority of the participants in the African studies were Jewish but I have not been able to confirm that.? Do you have additional information?" ? --------------------------------------------------- ? Here is...
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Am I a hypocrite? My friend says...
Published (2009-12-18 00:14:00)
Having surgery performed on a child based on someone else's medical condition just boggles the mind. What other surgery would even be ALLOWED just because someone else's child had a particular medical condition? Just boggles the mind! Especially with those adult examples of normal body parts. No more problematic than any other normal body part. I smell troll too, but will post so that your words do not stand unchallenged by reason...
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I had a sad realization
Published (2009-12-18 01:32:00)
I'm sorry Christopher, I didn't mean to make your heart weep, but I too weep thinking these things. I do support IA as much as I can in this trying economy. I pray their message gets through, I really do. Right now I'm struggling because I so badly want to educate on another board I'm very active on, but I'd hate to alienate in the process. It's so hard to balance between information and offense.
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Am I a hypocrite? My friend says...
Published (2009-12-17 10:24:00)
May I ask you a question then in regards to your chosen course of action with your boys? When you said they were "8 and 10" I assume you mean 8 years and 10 years old.? Is that correct?? If so, how did they feel about being circ'd at that age?? Was it something they wanted done?? Did you consider their feelings on the matter when you made this decision? Also, you say you did it for essentially hygiene issues, as a...
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Am I a hypocrite? My friend says...
Published (2009-12-17 00:32:00)
I'm sorry. I haven't been able to get back until now. Thanks for the honest replies. I'm sorry, but I'm not too computer-savvy yet and am not quite sure what a 'troll' is, but I think it has something to do with being a troublemaker or a liar? Is that right? Well, I assure you all I'm not trying to cause any trouble, nor am I lying. I decided to have my boys circed because of some awful experiences some...
user's latest post:
I had a sad realization
Published (2009-12-17 23:42:00)
I don't disagree with this because of the nature of circumcision. Real change won't happen until that time but I think the message is getting out, even in the relatively short time I've looked at this it seems that I see more and more people speaking out against it. Most people at least know there is a bit of a controversy now which is a big step itself.
user's latest post:
I had a sad realization
Published (2009-12-18 11:20:00)
Elissa, take heart! My DH and his brother are both circumcised. Between them they have 4 intact sons. Two of my best male friends from college have 4 intact sons between them. I have never asked about their status (we weren't that kind of friends), but since they were both born in Minnesota around 1960, I think it's safe to assume they are circumcised. The tide is turning, but I agree with you that as long as infant circumcision is...
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Started 2 days, 18 hours ago (2009-12-19 00:31:00)
by itsirkmr
That video made me sick.
Those poor souls, they must feel so violated and lost. I can't condemn that culture though as being any more barbaric than our own, as we sacrifice our boys every single day as well.
A tragedy.
Started 3 days, 19 hours ago (2009-12-17 23:42:00)
by fellowtraveler
I don't disagree with this because of the nature of circumcision. Real change won't happen until that time but I think the message is getting out, even in the relatively short time I've looked at this it seems that I see more and more people speaking out against it. Most people at least know there is a bit of a controversy now which is a big step itself.
Started 3 days, 6 hours ago (2009-12-18 12:47:00)
by frankly_speaking
It's because they can. They can't do these things to adults. They also think they can get away with it. If this had been advocated by a religious leader, it would most likely have become accepted by the adherents of the religion and would have become widespread and common place in that religion. Witness what happened in Jonestown, Ghianna.
There are commonalities with our issue. It ...
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-12-12 13:35:00)
by rickasha
Very well said, Frank. All that you mention is certainly in the realm of anatomical possibilities. I find it sad that a nation that in many ways is so advanced continues the practice of RIC and even spends money and effort from many quarters to promote it.
I recently found a board on ivillage labeled "Mismatched Libidos" and have read a few threads. It is primarily a ...
Started 5 days, 10 hours ago (2009-12-16 09:03:00)
by lve2read
Why deny your sons what you KNOW to be good? Aren't they going to be sexually active adult men one day? I think your friend has a valid point.
Started 1 week ago (2009-12-13 20:42:00)
by itsirkmr
Yay for the females. Hoping the males get the same respect soon.
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-12-12 18:52:00)
by cl-islaywhisky
Frank, it can be argued that the difference is the presence or absence of hygiene between the two nations, together with the disparity of methods employed.
It is also argued that non medically indicated circumcision is barbaric, regardless of sanitation or method. But which nation's practice is more barbaric than the other?
See the video link below which shows an utterly shocking, ...
Started 5 days, 20 hours ago (2009-12-15 22:42:00)
by fellowtraveler
What I like about that Chris is that there are many supporters for the cause there. It seems to me that there are more people who find circumcision ridiculous than many people believe.
Started 1 week, 4 days ago (2009-12-10 00:48:00)
by lve2read
Why not just ask your friend what part of girls should be cut off to "prevent UTIs" and why little boys are at such greater risk than little girls? What is so broken about little boys that the same medications used for girls won't work for boys? Ask your friend to show YOU the astronomically higher rates of UTIs in little boys than in little girls. Since your friend is defending alteration ...
Started 2 weeks ago (2009-12-07 10:44:00)
by annkh
Good thoughts, Christopher. We've seen a number of parents here (and elsewhere) admit that they realize that infant circumcision IS cosmetic surgery, but they don't feel that there is anything wrong with choosing it FOR their sons. In fact, they assure us that their sons will be grateful that it was done to them.
How can they know that? How many times have teenagers or adults looked at ...
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Started 5 days, 10 hours ago (2009-12-16 09:03:00)
by lve2read
Why deny your sons what you KNOW to be good? Aren't they going to be sexually active adult men one day? I think your friend has a valid point.
Started 3 days, 19 hours ago (2009-12-17 23:42:00)
by fellowtraveler
I don't disagree with this because of the nature of circumcision. Real change won't happen until that time but I think the message is getting out, even in the relatively short time I've looked at this it seems that I see more and more people speaking out against it. Most people at least know there is a bit of a controversy now which is a big step itself.
Started 1 week ago (2009-12-13 20:42:00)
by itsirkmr
Yay for the females. Hoping the males get the same respect soon.
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-12-12 18:52:00)
by cl-islaywhisky
Frank, it can be argued that the difference is the presence or absence of hygiene between the two nations, together with the disparity of methods employed.
It is also argued that non medically indicated circumcision is barbaric, regardless of sanitation or method. But which nation's practice is more barbaric than the other?
See the video link below which shows an utterly shocking, ...
Started 2 days, 18 hours ago (2009-12-19 00:31:00)
by itsirkmr
That video made me sick.
Those poor souls, they must feel so violated and lost. I can't condemn that culture though as being any more barbaric than our own, as we sacrifice our boys every single day as well.
A tragedy.
Started 5 days, 20 hours ago (2009-12-15 22:42:00)
by fellowtraveler
What I like about that Chris is that there are many supporters for the cause there. It seems to me that there are more people who find circumcision ridiculous than many people believe.
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-12-12 13:35:00)
by rickasha
Very well said, Frank. All that you mention is certainly in the realm of anatomical possibilities. I find it sad that a nation that in many ways is so advanced continues the practice of RIC and even spends money and effort from many quarters to promote it.
I recently found a board on ivillage labeled "Mismatched Libidos" and have read a few threads. It is primarily a ...
Started 1 week, 4 days ago (2009-12-10 00:48:00)
by lve2read
Why not just ask your friend what part of girls should be cut off to "prevent UTIs" and why little boys are at such greater risk than little girls? What is so broken about little boys that the same medications used for girls won't work for boys? Ask your friend to show YOU the astronomically higher rates of UTIs in little boys than in little girls. Since your friend is defending alteration ...
Started 3 days, 6 hours ago (2009-12-18 12:47:00)
by frankly_speaking
It's because they can. They can't do these things to adults. They also think they can get away with it. If this had been advocated by a religious leader, it would most likely have become accepted by the adherents of the religion and would have become widespread and common place in that religion. Witness what happened in Jonestown, Ghianna.
There are commonalities with our issue. It ...
Started 2 weeks ago (2009-12-07 10:44:00)
by annkh
Good thoughts, Christopher. We've seen a number of parents here (and elsewhere) admit that they realize that infant circumcision IS cosmetic surgery, but they don't feel that there is anything wrong with choosing it FOR their sons. In fact, they assure us that their sons will be grateful that it was done to them.
How can they know that? How many times have teenagers or adults looked at ...
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