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user's latest post:
HMPEs dropping out of clear bio.
Published (2009-12-30 22:49:00)
Quote: Originally posted by NigelB Quote: Originally posted by tttonyyy Another variable to throw in... incomplete conversion, then WBD, has lead to the clearest fuel so far on WBD, with no signs of HMPEs whatsoever. I don't know if that is an anomoly or not, but I've just had another batch not 100% converted so will see what happens with that too. I take it that your "incomplete conversion" resulted in a slight failure on...
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Cold weather additives
Published (2009-12-30 08:34:00)
Without wishing to brown-nose here, I'm with Jamesrl. I am looking to make fuel that doesn't need cold weather additives. However, unlike James, I shall be trying to freeze/settle out the HMPEs rather than filter.
user's latest post:
Cold weather additives
Published (2009-12-31 21:26:00)
Quote: Originally posted by jamesrl Quote: Originally posted by BANDIT2 KH, I don't know but it'll glop out of the drums that i pick it up in [just] in this weather. Its nice and runny at 15 deg. the place fries alsorts in it but mainly chickern/chips. And I bet they use frozen chips, your oil is heavily contaminated with animal fats and palm oil. I doubt you'll find an additive to solve that problem, maybe Chemiphase Coldflow...
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HMPEs dropping out of clear bio.
Published (2009-12-31 15:20:00)
yes interesting stuff, urea, main component of, and extracted from urine? so once bio is finished we just take a leak in it and then just filter out HMPE's and drain off urea?
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When to stop washing?
Published (2009-12-31 18:46:00)
If you want a clear Shake-em-up you should continue to mist wash until the water coming out is the same going in. Try making the mist finer. This will generate a better washing action with smaller water droplets. Looks like your droplets maybe a bit on the large side considering the amount of water you have used. Mind you...you could just have really soapy bio in which case you'll need plenty of water anyway. Nige
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earth problem
Published (2009-12-31 19:18:00)
Pretty normal for elect supplier to bond earth and neutral together at your cutout.
user's latest post:
earth problem
Published (2009-12-31 17:21:00)
Between 1 and live What is that hole? Test between this hole and the outside of the element / thread it should be the earth. Please let us know if it is. bob
user's latest post:
HMPEs dropping out of clear bio.
Published (2009-12-30 20:49:00)
HC II ... Generally with WBD I settle for an hour or two which I think may be longer than some people but with 5%PW I usually settle overnight. The results I've had on the last three batches were: 1) WBD, stopped well short of stoichiometric, no washing, a couple of hours settling, long final demeth, overnight bubbling = HMPE dropping out at recent ambient temps. 2) WBD, stopped well short of stoichiometric + 5%PW, settle overnight, long...
user's latest post:
earth problem
Published (2009-12-31 17:15:00)
Hi my inline heater is built with these elements from mesilus just put the earth to the body of your heater or on the boss and it will work fine no tripping of your rcd
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Latest active threads on Biodiesel::
Started 2 days, 4 hours ago (2009-12-31 18:46:00)
by NigelB
If you want a clear Shake-em-up you should continue to mist wash until the water coming out is the same going in. Try making the mist finer. This will
generate a better washing action with smaller water droplets.
Looks like your droplets maybe a bit on the large side considering the amount of water you have used. Mind you...you could just have really soapy bio
in which case you'll need ...
Started 2 days, 2 hours ago (2009-12-31 21:09:00)
by petep900
You ever run Biodiesel through the car?
Started 4 days, 21 hours ago (2009-12-29 02:16:00)
by Jehu
If the oil had overheated for a long time there would have been some breakdown resulting in more FFAs, which obviously isnt the case if it titrates at
3. In any case 105C is still well below frying temperature.
Started 2 weeks, 1 day ago (2009-12-18 00:15:00)
by countrypaul
Depending on what you make you bio from will affect the cloud point of the bio (the point at which precipitates form). Rapeseed and sunflower tend to
give bio with a lower cloud point than soya or palm.
The usual way to check is to leave a jamjar full of bio outside at a convienient location (ideally one that can be seen from inside) so you can easily
check whether your bio is waxing or ...
Started 3 days ago (2009-12-30 22:28:00)
by NigelB
Have you noticed a drop in yield recently as a result of your findings?
Nige
Started 2 days, 1 hour ago (2009-12-31 21:38:00)
by jamesrl
They've been around for years but handy to know about, even if you never need 'm
Started 2 days, 8 hours ago (2009-12-31 14:58:00)
by julesandtash
Sounds like the element is down to earth. Not a good idea to get near the processor if you disconnect the earth bonding.
Have you tried checking resistance between the boss of the element and one of the terminals at a time?
Fixing an earth terminal to whatever the element screws into should not be hard, an earth tag for a large (50sq.mm or similar) armoured cable gland
may fit ...
Started 2 weeks ago (2009-12-19 20:17:00)
by markconnor33
What is the WVO like that you use as feedstock.
Is it liquid or solid at the sort of temps we are experiencing at the moment.
Can't say i've ever experienced the problems you're having.
My oil is mostly soy/rapeseed, always titrates below 3, usually 1.5-2.
Mark
Started 4 days, 5 hours ago (2009-12-29 18:09:00)
by markconnor33
Well done!!
Assuming you've now added the prewash water, you need to run your pump for about 15mins to give it a good "wash".
Then switch off the pump and settle. You should see most of the glycerol settling within 15mins, so a days a bit over the top.
You can do the mist wash thing, but most seem to think this "old hat".
Personally, I do just as you have, then bubble ...
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Hot threads for last week on Biodiesel::
Started 2 weeks ago (2009-12-19 20:17:00)
by markconnor33
What is the WVO like that you use as feedstock.
Is it liquid or solid at the sort of temps we are experiencing at the moment.
Can't say i've ever experienced the problems you're having.
My oil is mostly soy/rapeseed, always titrates below 3, usually 1.5-2.
Mark
Started 2 weeks, 1 day ago (2009-12-18 00:15:00)
by countrypaul
Depending on what you make you bio from will affect the cloud point of the bio (the point at which precipitates form). Rapeseed and sunflower tend to
give bio with a lower cloud point than soya or palm.
The usual way to check is to leave a jamjar full of bio outside at a convienient location (ideally one that can be seen from inside) so you can easily
check whether your bio is waxing or ...
Started 6 days, 1 hour ago (2009-12-27 21:39:00)
by Maurice_Mynah
I asked the very same question about 6 months ago. It seems that this is the way everybody does it, but be as far from your garage door as possible.
Started 4 days, 21 hours ago (2009-12-29 02:16:00)
by Jehu
If the oil had overheated for a long time there would have been some breakdown resulting in more FFAs, which obviously isnt the case if it titrates at
3. In any case 105C is still well below frying temperature.
Started 5 days, 8 hours ago (2009-12-28 15:10:00)
by NigelB
Unlucky Mark. I hope it breaks soon.
I take it that your oil is high titrating.
Nige
Started 6 days, 8 hours ago (2009-12-27 14:57:00)
by biohazard
Far as i am aware matey, think the methy stuff is heavier!! Biohazard
Started 6 days, 14 hours ago (2009-12-27 09:00:00)
by tttonyyy
Worth filtering cold in this weather to pull out the HMPEs before they hit your in-car filter (unless, of course, you have a heated in-car filter!)
That said it'd be a shame to clog a 1 micron quickly with HMPEs.
TAM105 should be fine for the job, pushing through the filter rather than pulling.
Started 4 days, 9 hours ago (2009-12-29 13:27:00)
by tttonyyy
What happens if you add a little meth to your sample and mix it in?
Started 4 days, 5 hours ago (2009-12-29 18:09:00)
by markconnor33
Well done!!
Assuming you've now added the prewash water, you need to run your pump for about 15mins to give it a good "wash".
Then switch off the pump and settle. You should see most of the glycerol settling within 15mins, so a days a bit over the top.
You can do the mist wash thing, but most seem to think this "old hat".
Personally, I do just as you have, then bubble ...
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-12-24 17:04:00)
by tron
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