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Quote: Originally Posted by custaro Good article. If Bernard is even half right the Libs really are utterly screwed. Well he is right. The developed world will agree to targets at Copenhagen, or at subsequent meetings to thrash out the detail. Almost all if not all of the developed economies will have an ets to help them meet it, and all of the developed world will have linked their ets through fungible developing world credits, currently...

Quote: Originally Posted by gravyishot What is "Whitlam"? The 1967 referendum is the only thing that stands. Can`t be fucked dude. Really. I know that is a weak as fuck response but it is what it is.

Quote: Originally Posted by trist Plenty also needed changing in Britain in the late 70s early 80s. She brought that necessary change. Many people hated her for it, many others applauded her for it. That's what happens when you have a strong forceful leader. Damn straight. Rolling blackouts Having to ask the fucking IMF for a hand-out due to our debt levels Unions screwing up the ability of businesses to operate Yeah we were AWESOME...

Quote: Originally Posted by weekender Of course how she went about things was just peachy? Who applauded it? Old money, the City of London and ... er.... the class divide deepened, the north-south schysm widened and woe betide you if you came from a coal, shipbuilding or manufacturing community. Yeah, Thatcher sucked, but like I said before, Brown and Blair have done enough to make the people of the UK forget about her. Their list of...

I have to agree both in a geographic sense and the business world where this region is usually dealt with as an Asia-Pacific division.

Quote: Originally Posted by base615 I'd call it actually being principled Smacks of his effort with the republican movement. Didn't win the first time, didn't get to be Australia's first president so he took his bat and ball and went home.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dubz What's your point? Thatcher was an excellent PM. No i'm not trolling, or anything like that. I see her as one of our greatest PMs.

Quote: Originally Posted by hubris it seems to me this is more about The Libs despising Rudd and his government, than it is about turnbull or the ETS There is a lot of that in it - the whole push to defer the vote until after Copenhagen was born out of a visceral hatred of the prospect of Rudd being able to go to Copenhagen and be seen as a leader. Some of the comments have been along the lines of "Australia's future is more...

Quote: Originally Posted by weekender Record unemployment Scandalous manipulation of the Falklands issue to get herself re-elected Her relationship with Pinochet Inner city riots The miners' strike Poll tax Destruction of the union movement Reduced public spending on education & health Privatisation of too many state institutions - rail being the obvious fcukup Bombing Libya I could go on. Plenty also needed changing in Britain...

Quote: Originally Posted by jdoodle costello speaks http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...ml?autostart=1 Even I must say that has to be the most unnecessary piece of writing. It almost feels like every Liberal has to recall their view of history to express "I wasn't part of this party".