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 Originally Posted By: GSD07 I have seen first hand 99.9% recall reliable 8 year old dog been kicked by a horse because the dog ran towards the horse and underneath. Actually when I said that 99% I was talking about what is done during training-- calling the dog when you are 99% sure they will respond. However that 99% still applies to any recall with a fully trained dog as well. No dog is 100% reliable, no matter if they were...

Just wanted to say you guys have been a ton of help for me and giving me the inspiration to do this also. I too will agree that I need to use the positive training as of right now and later in life with her will add some compulsion back in when she is ready and I feel her confidence is rebuilt. Thanks again for all the great suggestions too as far as books, dvds etc.. I will keep you updated with our ups and downs as I go. I am sure I will...

I don't get that analagy at all but whatever. I agree with Kelly, is good to have flexibility with anything. The puff puff trainers only assisted in making my dog worse. I am so thankful for the people that really took Paige on-individually and changed the course of her life. Like I have said before-I must have a very unique GSD.

 Originally Posted By: Chicagocanine If you use use corrections for the recall such as: you call the dog, the dog does not respond, the dog is corrected- you are associating the command with the correction. If timed properly than the dog associates the correction with not obeying the command. I have seen first hand 99.9% recall reliable 8 year old dog been kicked by a horse because the dog ran towards the horse and underneath. The...

 Originally Posted By: Liesje I use to be "positive only" but now having a sound, more confident dog and using all different types of tools and methods in various contexts, I truly believe that a sound dog benefits from a balance of training methods and that sometimes includes corrections, positive punishment, compulsion, negative reinforcement or whatever you like to call it (but an unsound dog, maybe not appropriate). I...

Dominance theory I think gives too many easy answers when, in reality, relationships, even with our animals, are more complicated.

I think also, when we as owners, are always on 'high alert', that can send this message right down the leash. I've learned to trust my dog much more, and while I am still vigilant, (with all mydogs), I am more relaxed when going into situations..

This is the exact opposite of what I have been taught!

Good things can also happen when your dog runs AWAY from you! LOL like squirrels, bunnies, deer, other dogs, people, etc etc. At some point in training (like Oksana said after the teaching phase) you need to proof, which depending on the dog, requires corrections.

 Originally Posted By: GSD07 That's a teaching recall stage. How do you proof it? It sounds like the OP needs to go back to the basics, and correcting the dog (ala Leerburg) won't help that. In addition to what I posted above, and to answer your question... If you have to turn and run away, he needs more training. When he is coming to you every time, with the long lead on, take him to a safe location (fenced) and try it on...