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Users activity: 37 posts per thread
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Derek Asirvadem
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Help With Homework (was...
Published (2009-11-12 14:30:00)
Yeah, and read your textbook and lecture notes first, as well.
mike_bike_kite
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TABLE RELATIONS (m:n) BY HIGHER...
Published (2009-11-14 15:11:00)
Then it looks like you should follow dportas's solution in this case. It might of been worth mentioning the number of types of objects that you were planning on storing as this does influence suggested designs - I guess 2 million trillion tables might be a bit much to look after in this case. Though there is a guy on the MySQL forum at the moment with 100 thousand tables in his database.
HogHunter
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database doccumentation
Published (2009-11-11 15:34:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by blindman Really? Cuz, I dropped out of Sybase seven years ago after attending a conference in Florida where it became abundantly clear to me that it is a dead and stagnant platform. I suppose if you never want to learn anything new and more powerful, or are incapable of adapting to change, then legacy systems such as sybase are the best career choice for you. Do tell? Blindman, This thread is quite revealing,...
pootle flump
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Help With Homework (was...
Published (2009-11-12 11:01:00)
I would post your question and your work so far. I will move this post to Database Concepts and Design. Be warned now - we will not do your homework for you. You will do all the work and we will nudge you if you start going down a blind alley.
Derek Asirvadem Registered User
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Help With Homework (was...
Published (2009-11-12 14:30:00)
Yeah, and read your textbook and lecture notes first, as well.
dportas
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Saving database information
Published (2009-11-12 03:11:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by programmer newbee Hi Guys, I am new to programming, so kindly bear me I am working on a project where parameters needed for database connection will be provided only once to the application. The question is how and where to save such information to use the parameters for later use ? which format will be secure ? Thankx Use some form of integrated / single-signon security such as Active Directory. Attempting to...
MarkATrombley
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Document Table Record Versioning
Published (2009-11-13 12:06:00)
Wikipedia has a decent article on temporal database design. Usually you would add a ValidStart and ValidEnd datetime columns to reflect when the row was current. The current record has a ValidEnd datetime of some specific date in the distant future so it is easy to find. If you are going to have a huge number of document revisions (more than 20 per document) then I would go with an archive table, otherwise keeping it in one table is best.
blindman
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Document Table Record Versioning
Published (2009-11-13 12:26:00)
Normally I would recommend an archive table, but in your case records are not being "permanently archived", and can be change back to an active state. So, the single table may be your best option. Note though, that a single table with start and stop columns will not enable you to determine the history of when a document was in use (if it had multiple start and stop times), while an archive table would.
CALGACUS
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Seeking advice on normalisation
Published (2009-11-12 19:29:00)
The OP is grateful to you both for taking the time to answer Actually, both answers were thoroughly useful. The assignment initially concerns modelling historical data that isn't going to be subject to any change - no chance of anomalies occuring. It then goes on to ask how the model could be ammended to provide better integrity, flexibility, etc. should a requirement arise that further data be added. Thanks to you both I am far more...
Brett Kaiser
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Document Table Record Versioning
Published (2009-11-13 13:21:00)
OK, I would have a Document table, With Effective and Termination Dates (null), with a version Number for the document that is incremented by 1 any time the document was modified (via a trigger) I would also move all data images to a history table (via a trigger) when anything on the row was modified MOO
 

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Started 4 days, 17 hours ago (2009-11-11 10:02:00)  by dportas
One possibility is to give each Article, Program, Doc, etc a unique AssetID. Then create one new table: AssociatedAssets {AssetID, AssociatedAssetID, TypeOfAssociation} KEY {AssetID, AssociatedAssetID}
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Started 3 days, 6 hours ago (2009-11-12 20:39:00)  by mike_bike_kite
Quote: Originally Posted by joehansen What would be the best way to structure the database table(s) so that the queries for the above operations would not just be simple but also run fast? Couldn't you just have a timestamp in the record and then the current document is the one with the latest timestamp. If you ...
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Started 3 days, 10 hours ago (2009-11-12 16:39:00)  by blindman
If... ...you need to store any other information related to HomeTowns ...or you want to restrict the values that can be entered into the HomeTown column ...or you want to provide a list of towns from which your user can select ...or you will be joining the two tables on the HomeTown columns then you should consider a separate table of towns. Otherwise I would consider it like an address ...
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Started 6 days, 10 hours ago (2009-11-09 17:03:00)  by mike_bike_kite
5) definitely sounds like the way forward.
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Started 3 days, 16 hours ago (2009-11-12 10:57:00)  by confused.co.uk Registered User
Just thought i would introduce myself, I'm Paul, I'm currently studying at uni and one of my modules contains systems & database, It's not something that really takes my intrest if I'm honest but something I'm going have to learn if i'm to pass. I'm currently having to do a ER-Diagram I'm at a point where i thought i would see if there is anyone out there whos kind enough to give me ...
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Started 3 days, 21 hours ago (2009-11-12 05:40:00)  by Pyrophorus Registered User
Hi everybody… I would like to get some advices on this data model. It deals with planification. I want to record activities involving a variable number of resources being persons, rooms, devices and so on. I plan to set up a many-to-many relationship beetween two tables, "activities" and "resources" with a middle table named "occ": Resources ID varchar PK, Label varchar, ...
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Started 4 days, 4 hours ago (2009-11-11 23:03:00)  by AnanthaP
As far as i could understand, the connection information is given as a parameter to the application. If it doesn't change at all, then better to store it in a small table in the database that has read right granted to all users. During application run time, read the data, store it into a global variable and release the table for the next user. If you tell the exact details of the ...
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Started 5 days, 12 hours ago (2009-11-10 14:55:00)  by Derek Asirvadem
Well you already have several (source) messes, plus you have replicated the messes; you are already suffering in quality ... but you want to add another order of messiness to it. The whole thing is a mess (now) and if you add another layer of mess on top of it, you will get mess squared. You may need more machines as well. I speak from several assignments of untangling such messes. I have ...
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Started 5 days, 19 hours ago (2009-11-10 08:05:00)  by AnanthaP
Derek, The context is clear. Now some clarifications. (1) What do people normally do on MS systems? (2) In my case also, progressive developments are normal and additionally since I work in a large tier II automobile company, I have to face the end user and thus have to give effective systems from day zero. The trick is of course to minimise scope-creep (in a release cycle) by doing a...
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The context is clear. Now some clarifications.

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(2) In... :: Database Concepts & Design :: dBforums - Database Support Community"
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Started 1 week, 4 days ago (2009-11-04 10:51:00)  by scooby_at_work
Normally it's pretty reasonable to put a clustered index on your primary key. Assuming that by identity you mean the column is based on a sequence or something, that shouldn't matter one way or the other. A clustered index just means that the leaves of the index point straight into the data, and that the data is arranged, roughly, around the index. This means that you eliminate one seek when...
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Started 5 days, 12 hours ago (2009-11-10 14:55:00)  by Derek Asirvadem
Well you already have several (source) messes, plus you have replicated the messes; you are already suffering in quality ... but you want to add another order of messiness to it. The whole thing is a mess (now) and if you add another layer of mess on top of it, you will get mess squared. You may need more machines as well. I speak from several assignments of untangling such messes. I have ...
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Started 1 week, 4 days ago (2009-11-04 10:51:00)  by scooby_at_work
Normally it's pretty reasonable to put a clustered index on your primary key. Assuming that by identity you mean the column is based on a sequence or something, that shouldn't matter one way or the other. A clustered index just means that the leaves of the index point straight into the data, and that the data is arranged, roughly, around the index. This means that you eliminate one seek when...
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Started 3 days, 10 hours ago (2009-11-12 16:39:00)  by blindman
If... ...you need to store any other information related to HomeTowns ...or you want to restrict the values that can be entered into the HomeTown column ...or you want to provide a list of towns from which your user can select ...or you will be joining the two tables on the HomeTown columns then you should consider a separate table of towns. Otherwise I would consider it like an address ...
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Started 3 days, 21 hours ago (2009-11-12 05:40:00)  by Pyrophorus Registered User
Hi everybody… I would like to get some advices on this data model. It deals with planification. I want to record activities involving a variable number of resources being persons, rooms, devices and so on. I plan to set up a many-to-many relationship beetween two tables, "activities" and "resources" with a middle table named "occ": Resources ID varchar PK, Label varchar, ...
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Started 3 days, 6 hours ago (2009-11-12 20:39:00)  by mike_bike_kite
Quote: Originally Posted by joehansen What would be the best way to structure the database table(s) so that the queries for the above operations would not just be simple but also run fast? Couldn't you just have a timestamp in the record and then the current document is the one with the latest timestamp. If you ...
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Started 5 days, 19 hours ago (2009-11-10 08:05:00)  by AnanthaP
Derek, The context is clear. Now some clarifications. (1) What do people normally do on MS systems? (2) In my case also, progressive developments are normal and additionally since I work in a large tier II automobile company, I have to face the end user and thus have to give effective systems from day zero. The trick is of course to minimise scope-creep (in a release cycle) by doing a...
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The context is clear. Now some clarifications.

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Started 4 days, 4 hours ago (2009-11-11 23:03:00)  by AnanthaP
As far as i could understand, the connection information is given as a parameter to the application. If it doesn't change at all, then better to store it in a small table in the database that has read right granted to all users. During application run time, read the data, store it into a global variable and release the table for the next user. If you tell the exact details of the ...
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Started 4 days, 17 hours ago (2009-11-11 10:02:00)  by dportas
One possibility is to give each Article, Program, Doc, etc a unique AssetID. Then create one new table: AssociatedAssets {AssetID, AssociatedAssetID, TypeOfAssociation} KEY {AssetID, AssociatedAssetID}
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Started 6 days, 7 hours ago (2009-11-09 20:28:00)  by mike_bike_kite
Here's a few hints to get you on your way: What's the difference between the account field and the customer fields? Does the price relate to the order or to some sort of item? Is the delivery person a field or a thing? If data can be worked out by totalling up other data then we calculate it rather than store it again.
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Started 3 days, 16 hours ago (2009-11-12 10:57:00)  by confused.co.uk Registered User
Just thought i would introduce myself, I'm Paul, I'm currently studying at uni and one of my modules contains systems & database, It's not something that really takes my intrest if I'm honest but something I'm going have to learn if i'm to pass. I'm currently having to do a ER-Diagram I'm at a point where i thought i would see if there is anyone out there whos kind enough to give me ...
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