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To All, Bumped to the top for background in the Universal Emancipation thread. Sincerely, Unionblue

Quote: there was a world of difference between what needed to be done, and what was possible to be done. Still is. Ole

Quote: Originally Posted by bama46 I got about a two hour lecture from the owner of the home and then a tour of the home several years ago... The owner is quite a character...I understand it is now for sale..or maybe has sold. I haven't been there in about 18 months Did he tell you as he told me on two separate occasions that his flashings and gutters are made of pure platinum?

It required no great sacrifice of principles or ideaology, for the gov't and people of the North to accept emancipation as a war winning measure. But, such a sacrifice,was demanded of, not only the leadership of the csa , but also, its citizens. Could the slave-owning, ruling oligarchy, face the admission that they started a a great and bloody War, for nothing and could the ordinary southerner accept the admission that they could not win...

Quote: Originally Posted by OpnOlympic P.S. The fact is, If money, power, domination etc., were the cause of the CW, then . all those attributes were most concentrated and most vehemently defended by the slave-owning oligarchy, which they confessed, by their words and actions, that they valued their slaves more hjighlly than the Union. That could well be why they received the 2nd Place trophy at war's end. It was a bit more complicated...

Quote: Originally Posted by ole I think I get the connection: Unemployed New Yorkers attacked Ft. Sumter to get their jobs back. Ole Or fatcats in danger of losing the shirt off their back. Who do you think helped outfit those ships for the Sumter expedition? __________________ POWER & MONEY "Your New-York bankers and merchants are shrewd people, but I never gave them credit for so much sagacity as when they took the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Battalion And over 50% in March 1861?! Yes, the threat and reality of a cutoff of cotton from the South caused unemployment in NYC in late 1860 through early 1861. However, it was the start of the Civil War that put many back to work. Things change. "Many NYC residents fought bravely in the war, those who didn't had to do something, as the cotton trade was all but dead . The need to transport soldiers...

O.R.-- SERIES I--VOLUME XXX/1 [S# 50] AUGUST 16-SEPTEMBER 22, 1863.--The Chickamauga Campaign. No. 133. --Report of Maj. Gen. Thomas L. Crittenden, U.S. Army, commanding Twenty-first Army Corps. [excerpt] September 5.--At 2.30 p.m., after having the command organized and in position, and with all of the ammunition and most of the transportation up, troops all moved out light to Whiteside's, General Wood in the advance, General Palmer...

Quote: Originally Posted by ole On the other hand, the precise point assaulted was a Federal facility with military personnel. That kinda makes it Federal and military, doesn't it? Wise was embarrassed by the poor showing of his militia during Brown's raid and wanted to regain face through prosecuting Brown. The Feds were happy to let him have it. Regards, Cash

Hmmm...I wish I had more time to spend reading and writing on forums. I think my point(s) have not come across as clearly as I would have liked them to because many or most of the arguments or rebuttals do not seem to completely coincide with my personal hypothesis. I will belay any further posts until I am able to better detail in this format what I am trying to say. As for slavery being a major cause of the break of religion, I thought that...