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Quote: Originally Posted by EricOKC Seek help John. You're the only one obsessed here.

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve Drake, I've proven such. I'm trained in the use of a firearm. I shoot weekly. I'm trained in the use of deadly force. I'm trained in the concepts of escalation of force. I've fired my firearm once, to protect myself and my wife. And yet you call for me to be disarmed... I was clear in my reasoning behind why I wanted to you see yourself in the same position I found myself. Until you...

Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake I DIDN'T CALL FOR YOU TO BE DISARMED . I made it perfectly clear TWICE that I WAS WILLING NOT TO OPPOSE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF BEING ARMED, THOUGH I OPPOSED THE PRACTICE ON PRINCIPLE. Oh, dear. Did you forget you wrote this? Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake a. make gun possession illegal, mandatory life sentence w/o parole for possession and death penalty for use in a crime. A one year grace...

Quote: Originally Posted by EricOKC You wont find any who will admit to it when put in such severe terms, but in effect, this is what they want. I really don't think so. Other than a few REALLY messed up people, I don't think anyone wants to see someone else hurt and/or killed rather than defending themselves. Quote: Originally Posted by Steve I see you've not met Drake... I doubt that he would rather see a woman raped and...

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LOL, why am I even arguing this when I completely disagree with the anti-gun crowd...

Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake I DIDN'T CALL FOR YOU TO BE DISARMED . Yes, you did. Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake I made it perfectly clear TWICE that I WAS WILLING NOT TO OPPOSE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF BEING ARMED, THOUGH I OPPOSED THE PRACTICE ON PRINCIPLE. Willing not to oppose the free exercise of a natural right? WOW! How incredibly gracious of you! Thanks! Maybe you could also be willing not to oppose my choice of...

Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake And police are still trained to shoot for the trunk because otherwise they're as likely to miss as not and give the criminal a chance to shoot back. The 400 police who were pinned down by two heavily armed and armored individuals were unable to get in any head shots, and they were all fairly close. It is, apparently, not as easy a target as it appears I, personally, don't consider shooting from...

Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake Since you, as a moderator, have decided to bait me too, who am I to refuse the challenge? Statistically, Steve and wife would have suffered no more than the loss of their money. From the circumstances he describes the assailants would probably not have stuck around to do any real damage. It's very possible that you killed two people unnecessarily, does that make you feel better? Assuming the whole...

Quote: Originally Posted by John Drake In the legal sense, yes, but in the moral sense it's debatable. If it was not necessary to save their lives it was not necessary. most people aren't batman or a mind reader like you claim. if someone assaults me for no good reason (note i don't consider robbery, even when starving to death a good reason, cause thats the law, and well... fuck them) and i feel my life or the life of someone...