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Quote: Originally Posted by xsited1 Quote: Originally Posted by Toro Quote: Sherrill St. Germain, a financial planner in Hollis, N.H. with a lot experience in the field, says the big issue for many clients is losing group health insurance. "That's the thing that keeps them stuck," she says. "That's the deal-breaker." Say what you will about healthcare reform: The present system is a huge drag on...

Bullshit nothing. Saying "what if", when we cannot possibly turn back the clock and say for sure one way or the other, as some sort of attempt at making a cogent point, is itself bullshit.

Quote: Originally Posted by JakeStarkey The claim is that GOP health plans are defective. That's what you have to defend against, plymco, and you haven't. Show the access that the GOP guarantees, please. No the claim was the GOP had no plan, which I debunked. Show me the access that HR3962 guarantees (the democrat plan). Just direct me to the section of the bill that guarantees access and coverage and i'll read it for myself...

Quote: Originally Posted by Wry Catcher Most Americans agree that our health care system is broken. Not that the ability of our health care pratictioners is poor or inadequite, but that the method of paying for health care has grown at a faster pace than inflation and is a burden to small and large business and individual tax payers. 'Conservatives', Republicans and the health care industry aside, most Americans want the system...

Quote: Originally Posted by VaYank5150 Quote: Yes and if his plan gets through more and more will die, rationing will come into the plan. Do you have ANYTHING to base this OPINION on, Maple? Anything at all? Try reading the bill. Panels are identified in it to control costs. They're primary purpose is to weed out the undesirables and let through those they consider an asset to society.

California Girl, would not universal healthcare liberate women from being in a loveless marriage for the sake of having her husband having healthcare, as some husbands beat their wives and the reason she stays with him is his healthcare. If she had healthcare, would she feel liberated to leave her husband.

Quote: Originally Posted by typicalLefty Quote: Originally Posted by California Girl Quote: Originally Posted by typicalLefty no matter how much it costs, we need universal health insurance because too many people make bad choices for themselves and do not get insurance, costing all of us. If everyone had insurance, noone could make bad decisions about cverage. We need to save pe If people want to make bad choices, that is their choice. You...

Quote: Originally Posted by Diuretic I've wondered long about why health insurance has been linked to employment in the US. I don't get it. For a start it's an impost on the employer but also I reckon employees are paying for it anyway. If a union were to enter a collective bargaining session knowing that health insurance benefits weren't in the mix and that the employer wasn't carrying the burden then surely they...

Quote: Originally Posted by Emma Quote: Originally Posted by mudwhistle Once they combine the House bill with the Senate bill more will be covered but still millions will be left out in the cold. Until they grow the balls to enact single-payer, we won't have "universal health care". This really pisses me off... Then may, by God's Grace, they remain the eunuchs they have been for the last 40 years. May they never...

Quote: Originally Posted by Immanuel Quote: Originally Posted by Care4all Quote: Originally Posted by mudwhistle Unless you've read the bill from cover to cover and totally understand it I don't think you can say that. And.....what's worse is they still aren't finished writing the stupid thing. That's true, and even if one has read one of the bills in it's entirety, there is still another thousand or more pages...