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Don't know why I am having so much trouble with this; Schwab said: A fast taper gets wider closer to the bell bend, a slow taper gets wider closer to the bell. Badmangood said: fast taper is a quicker widening at the end, slow taper starts closer to the valve sections and expands slowly Somehow, I see these as saying the opposite. Maybe I am concentrating on the very end flare of the bell too much. Ideas. Anyone got a pic?

OR! You can buy a used Yamaha Xeno, I became fond of my friends one that he had, but their a few thousand for one right? Well Carolina crown uses them for a season or two and sells them for only about 1000, they arnt laid down on pavement because they practice in the grass, they all wear gloves, and they have brass techs looking at em during the summer TheCrownStore.com um keep a look out eventually they should have some trumpets posted. Or...

I played an Ambassador that sounded like a trumpet with a weird wrap. I wouldn't want one for a cornet. Don't know about the other one. Play both if you can. Tom

OH whoops my bad - I know what shape goes with what sound, and went with the words that were logical to me (apparently not to those who came up with them though...) I seem to have been doing that a lot lately...

I like the Xeno sound a whole lot. I also like the superior fit and finish of the Yamaha pro instruments. The reason to buy is not my preference though. My wife probably wouldn't be any good for you either, and she is definitely my preference.

Re: Should I buy this trumpet? Sorry for the same 3 replies. My first one locked up and when I tried to delete the second time a third showed up.

Quote: Originally Posted by DiaxII Is current production Holton C602 cornet as good as anything else in its price range? It's around $800 new and can be obtained for as low as $120 on e$ay in nice shape. I heard at some point their production moved to Taiwan. Has the quailty dropped noticeably since then? I understand until the production move to Asia all Holton horns were made in the US? Was there any cooperation with Yamaha at some...

I had a chance to play an old Blessing from the 50's and that was a nice horn, very open and cut like a laser.

Re: What horn should I get? I vote for the Ambassador. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

Re: Should I buy this trumpet? Your link above is broken, but I assume your talking about the Barrington BRG125995. I personally wouldn't do it. You'd be much better off getting a used Yamaha student horn (model 2335) on ebay. There are a bunch of them for sale right now in the $200 - $350 price range. They go for about $1000 new. There is also a silver 4320 with about 16hrs left on the bidding. It's currently in the...