Old-Timers | Forum profile

Hawk

Again, Jeffries continued to improve. The man only had 20 fights or so ..

not sure i get your point. no matter. if you want to correct a wrong it would be better to give the family of joe louis a tax refund. louis tried to do good and got his hand slapped. i have much more sympathy for joe than i do with johnson. does he deserve a pardon... sure. go ahead for what good it will do now. greg

Quote: Originally Posted by hawk5ins Here is what Tunney said about Jeff (believe I've reprinted this previously so my apologies if is has been seen before): "Tommy Ryan created the pattern of Jeffireis actionsin the ring, taught him the famous crouch, body hunched over and left hand stuck out. Just go plodding ahead like that, pushing the left out straight. It was one of the most uninteresting of ring styles, but it had...

dude just asking. wow. settle down. kidding kidding. Anyhow.. Gene had evolved significantly from the men of Jeff's ilk. He could read, AND jab. The jab of course invented accidentally in 1912 in Fisher's Landing NY when a man who came to skip stones (that having just been invented) tried to grasp an offending mayfly and by happenchance struck an offensive blow to a fishmonger.

Quote: Originally Posted by hawk5ins at the times, were shown in Theaters. I would imagine they would have actually have appeared superior to the aged, 5th, 6th, 7th and beyond, generation copies that are available to us today. Hawk Again, films of Jefferies were shown in theatres as late as the 19teens and 20s? I'm not sure of this. I think the Sharkey-Jefferies film was 'lost' for years not too long after the bout took place....

I just now saw that post. Personal who knows, but Jeffries seemmed to think that Tunney was a weaker hitting easier to hit version of Johnson. One thing to consider about Jeffries was also that crouch of his and his ability to use it. One has to hit down and lose power and Jeffries also could slip and roll coming in. Not that hard to hit uphigh by some, but to the chin, much more so and being a left hook artist with body punches that knocked...

I will definitely concede that men raised in the late 1800's were physically tougher having been raised to be more physically active (in the absence of technological advancements they had no choice) and didn't poison their bodies with excess fast food or other such chemically enhanced store bought foods. These guys followed a diet of organic farm grown fresh fruits, vegetables and meats ate in moderation and trained hard. No flabby...

I read this in an old newspaper, for what it is worth: "I see that Jim Corbett says that he can't understand the poor showing that Gus Ruhlin made against Jeffries, 'for he certainly is not a coward or a quitter.' Corbett sneers at Jeffries as a big bull who is 'overrated.' Corbett certainly demonstrated that while he was fresh and strong he made Jeff look like a fistic novice, but Jeff also proved that he was...

Have to honest Shields didn't really impress me in his bout with Bruce Curry and Costello-saw a good boxer but not as slick as everyone said-was there a performance by Shields that showcased all of his skills?