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Hey I like zeiss all day long. Great customer service, very reliable, and great clarity. But to compare apples to apples, the 4.5-14x44 is 875 dollars from swfa, and the bushnell is 750 dollars. The bushnell is a 30mm tube vs a 25mm/1" tube, it goes all the way down to 2.5 and goes up to 16 power which is one of the most impressive power ranges in rifle scopes. The 30mm tube will allow for more adjustment and the greater power range...

I wouldn't buy that if I was you. If you need a cheap dot...well, take a look at the Bushnell Trophy MP. That's the cheapest I'd go. You've purchased a solid rifle, now how about giving it the solid optics it deserves? Use irons in the meantime while you save up some money for a quality optic. I see lightly used Eotechs go for around the $300 mark frequently, for example.

I don't know. But if even half the poor customer service and "blow-you-off" warrentee claim BS are true I have heard about the 2x? I don't intend to find out with my money. Of the 7 customer reviews on Midway, 5 were happy, and 2 were not so happy. I guess you pays your money and you takes your chances. rc

mine is within about an inch of point of aim. it varies depending on the distance to the target. I think it is zeroed at 25 yards, but you can check their website if you want to be sure. I haven't tried mine from a bench rest or anything like that to confirm it, but in my experience it's close enough to zeroed shooting handheld that any distance greater than 1 inch is my fault. If I could afford it, I'd have them on one or two...

Quote: I suppose I am focused a lot on the skin comparison...no I could not bend a full sand bag, but wouldn't getting a pry bar into the sand to start to rip it open be a lot easier with a thinner bag material? Yes. But would doubling up on the bags make much of a difference? For the most part, gun safes are the bags of the safe industry. They are the lightest, and thinest boxes made. There isn't much of a difference when dealing...

Here is a silical desiccant pack that I use. I have two, but you only need one. You can make them last longer if you heat the inside of the safe with a dehumidifier. If you open your safe frequently, which you will at first. http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=623716 Dehumidifier http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=453246

I'll just start with some of the pics that I took as I finished up my project for today. I need to get some 16gauge wire crimps to shorten the wire to the upper light. This is on a BF6636 safe from AMSEC

Quote: A schmidt and bender I would hope to trump a scope that cost 2000 dollars less than it but I would not guarantee it. I will; I have compared: PRH, S&B, Zeiss Diavari and Conquest (what I judge all others by), Swaro, Leupold VX-III, as well as Bushnell Elite 4200 in side by side comparison and can say without question that the PRH and S&B are the best scopes that I have looked through (I honestly couldn't tell any...

How is the zero on the Lasermax? I've read people talking about how you can't adjust it so you might be off center and not be able to do anything about it. Have any problems with that?

Quote: I've basically been told not to bother with NV unless I was shelling out the big bucks (Gen 2+ and better). And from what I've researched...well, you get the picture. There's a reason I have no NV gear of my own. Same here, a $200-$400 unit, still has you out $2-400 bucks, with not much to show for it. Unfortunately the military spoiled me, so only Gen III would suit me and I can't afford it (yet). There are some...