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Quote: Originally Posted by DarkStar2011 I'm assuming that what you are calling 4th is actually the 3rd edition reprint that was named "Classic BattleTech: RPG". All that that did was really give it a new name and fix a number of typos and other errors. The new edition "A Time of War" is a major attempt to fix the mess that was 3rd edition, and it goes a long way to returning to what MechWarrior was in...

"Subjective reality" itself isn't necessarily a ripoff -- or if it is, it's one that's been going on for a long time. GURPS Illuminati itself appears to have borrowed the meme from Shea and Wilson's "Illuminatus!" trilogy, for example. It may well have been an idea whose time had come: Over the Edge hit game-store shelves around the same time. Obviously, the conspiracy's plans had...

Quote: Originally Posted by Icelander *That is, gay men and women. How can you ever find men attractive? Surely you mean "gay and bi men and straight and bi women"? I'm pretty confident that lesbians don't find men attractive as a rule. Bill Stoddard

Quote: Originally Posted by Icelander I've played several WoD/WW games. I've got nothing against the premise of many of these games. But the mechanics ! Every single experiment with these games has led to the gaming group in question abandoning the game in frustration due to arcane, inconsistent and annoying game mechanics that modelled neither the stated genre nor reality with any accuracy. For me, WoD/WW stands as an example of a...

Quote: Originally Posted by Irish Wolf Did someone say "horse stories"? This is where we need GURPS My Little Ponies. Of course, you could always take this opportunity to crush her fragile spirit and break her mind. It's up to you.

Quote: Originally Posted by whswhs Surely you mean "gay and bi men and straight and bi women"? I'm pretty confident that lesbians don't find men attractive as a rule. Bill Stoddard True. But, then again, all the less reason for me to ask them this question. All the lesbians I've known have been very sensible and found men as unattractive as I do. ;)

Quote: Originally Posted by trooper6 Yeah, I've always been disturbed the trend of many WoD bashers to move really quickly to sexist and homophobic attacks against the game. Hmmph. And all this time I thought it came from WWGS refusal to give a consistent origin for Rasputin! ;)

Quote: Originally Posted by trooper6 WoD bashing isn't new. WoD being the other big game on the block, one that encourages a different style of play than D&D, it is predictable that bashing would happen. How many times have I seen this, for years and years: D&Der: WoD is just a game for homos and girls who like to sit around and talk. It sucks! WoD: D&D is just a game for stupid brutes who've never seen a...

I've never played the nWoD. But I really enjoyed the games I played in oWoD 2e. I was majorly irritated by the plot progression of 2eRev and stopped playing around then. I don't have time to read a new gaming book at the moment, but I will certainly pick up the new rules books sooner or later. I had been playing dramatic heavy games before Vampire (Call of Cthulhu)...but after Vampire, it was much easier to find players who were...

I don't really find the V:tM system that offensive. A bit bland, yeah, but it does market itself as storytelling over system. And the people I know to play it are gothgirls (actual or 'weekend goths') and fairly common people, divided 50/50. I played a scenario which had one gay guy. He was openly gay, but I didn't notice it until someone said it. I think bashing is here to stay, and it is more about "I wish to...