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Spalted Sycamore
Published (2009-11-27 20:37:00)
Well you asked... Poly is for floors, period. Not the best for furniture etc. Spalted lumber tends to be very absorbant. I would finish inside and out with a couple coats of de-waxed super blonde shellac, if you want no color; or an amber or garnet shellac if you want a bit of color. Once sealed with the shellac I would use a quality alkyd resin soya oil varnish like Cabot's 8000 series or Pratt & Lambert #38 (my favotrite...
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Refinishing Schedule Red Oak...
Published (2009-11-27 13:17:00)
"5. Varnish with Behlen Rockhard. Cut the first coat 50/50 and then 90/10 after that. Guessing 5-6 coats brushed on. Sand with 320/400 wet using water/soap between coats. Sand final coat with 800+ and then rub with compound to get the satin look" I am not familiar with the products you are using but the procedure should be the same. Finishing is not rocket science it is an easily aquired skill with basic steps to be followed....
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Finishing reference book or...
Published (2009-11-26 22:59:00)
I was just going to ask this question. I also thank you for the tip. I'm looking for the 2005 of Bob Flexner's understanding wood finishing as soon as this posts
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Water based stain over oil based...
Published (2009-11-26 12:11:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Simon Leung Scott, one more question. Shellac is not recommended to be used as a sealer under polyurethane. Do you think a shellac toner can be used over polyurethane which is what Polyshades is? Yes, you can use a shellac toner OVER your polyurethane finish with no problem. You can also use de-waxed shellac UNDER a poly finish without issue. But I also agree with Scott...lose the poly in the future. It's a...
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Charles Neil Finishing DVDs
Published (2009-11-21 22:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by William Hutchinson I have the DVD set and consider it a tremendous reference for woodworkers learning and improving finishing techniques. I would suggest that you visit his website and watch the previews and the other free stuff. This will give you a taste of how the information is presented. The videos are not professionally produced and sound quality can be a distraction. If you want a step-by-step approach, this...
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can shellac go over poly??
Published (2009-11-22 06:58:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by glenn bradley Just did it today actually. The spray can poly dulled in a couple spots. I just wiped on a bit of dewaxed shellac to put the gloss back; invisible fix. Does it have to be dewaxed?
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How would you finish this mahogany
Published (2009-11-23 09:57:00)
Keep in mind that your choice of topcoat will also alter the color. If you use an oil based top, this usually means some more 'amberizing'. I've dealt with SWMBO before, and in my experience, yr best bet is getting the boss involved from the get go. Make a few test boards - including top coat, and have her select. The best way to control the color is to use an aniline dye. Transtint's Medium Brown or Brown Mahogany are...
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Water based stain over oil based...
Published (2009-11-24 01:48:00)
Scott, thanks again for the very useful information. I definitely will try something else other than poly on my next project.
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Painting/dying children's toys
Published (2009-11-20 12:23:00)
Well, I plan to just give it a try, painting a couple toys with acrylic without any primer, letting them sit a couple days, and then banging them around a little to see how the paint holds up. (Should I try gnawing on them?) I'll report back.
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Charles Neil Finishing DVDs
Published (2009-11-24 07:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Tony Bilello Thanks for the info. I didn't really want to order it, I was just wondering how much they cost because i was going to suggest that you might hire a refinishing shop to teach you how to spray. You can get the basics in less than an hours worth of practice. It's just nice to have someone there when you are spraying to say "closer, closer, a little faster movement" etc. ......
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Latest active threads on Project Finishing::
Started 21 hours, 53 minutes ago (2009-11-29 13:35:00)
by J. Scott Holmes
Wax makes water bead up. It does NOT protect the wood from water penetration.
White oak is very durable when used aroung water. Red oad is not. European oak is not a wood I know enough about to comment.
To provide protection from daily use, the wax & turp. would need to be redone not less than weekly. thats way too much work in my book.
A better solito would be an oil/varnish ...
Started 2 days, 14 hours ago (2009-11-27 20:37:00)
by J. Scott Holmes
Well you asked...
Poly is for floors, period. Not the best for furniture etc.
Spalted lumber tends to be very absorbant. I would finish inside and out with a couple coats of de-waxed super blonde shellac, if you want no color; or an amber or garnet shellac if you want a bit of color.
Once sealed with the shellac I would use a quality alkyd resin soya oil varnish like Cabot's 8000 ...
Started 1 day, 18 hours ago (2009-11-28 16:45:00)
by Phil Phelps
I don't think your compressor will handle a conversion HVLP.
Started 2 days, 15 hours ago (2009-11-27 20:24:00)
by J. Scott Holmes
Shellac is color fast, fast drying and has proved itself over the test of time.
Thinning wax is not a good idea MS is not onlya thinner for wax it is a solvent for wax. My guess is the the MS and wax got down in the pores and the sun "cooked" the wax.
Wipe it down with MS a when no more bleeding takes place, rewax sans the MS
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-11-21 00:15:00)
by Tony Bilello
Maybe if you filled out a profile and members here know where you live, they might invite you to their shop and teach you how to spray.
Since I am not familiar with Charles Neil's DVD's all I can say is in general, One DVD is worth more than all of the books you can ever read. Watching body motion is something that cant be put into words.
Started 5 days, 9 hours ago (2009-11-25 01:56:00)
by sean m. titmas
Im not saying that it cant be done but its never been easy when i had to refinish a floor by splitting it up. Ive done maybe 20 floors and half of them had to be done half and half. the best way to accomplish this is to break it up by rooms so that the dry edge does not look as obvious. once a floor is sanded and vacummed you need to start the staining process with little to no traffic on the ...
Started 5 days, 2 hours ago (2009-11-25 08:32:00)
by Peter Quinn
You should try Smith's CPES as a sealer with an alkyd (oil based) varnish top coat, be it spar or marine like Epifanes. Nothing out lives that epoxy for holding finish.
Started 2 years, 4 months ago (2007-07-29 12:57:00)
by Matt Meiser
I used Minwax wipe-on poly in satin on all our windows when we replaced them and I was happy with the sheen. I used the Scotts shop towels ( paper towels) that you can get at Lowes as an applicator and it goes really quick with minimal mess and cleanup.
Started 1 day, 20 hours ago (2009-11-28 15:21:00)
by keith jensen
I'm no expert but I read somewhere when I was trying out the transtint dye that it would not be compatible with oil based products as an additive. You might want to try using just a mixture of the dyes to get the right color. There are a lot smarter people in here than me though so I'm sure they will have better ideas. I really like using the dyes now that I tried them.
Started 1 day, 18 hours ago (2009-11-28 16:53:00)
by Phil Phelps
Paint last. I like to dry fit the doors before painting.
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Hot threads for last week on Project Finishing::
Started 6 days, 17 hours ago (2009-11-23 17:38:00)
by Greg Crawford
Understanding Wood Finishing by Bob Flexner
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-11-21 00:15:00)
by Tony Bilello
Maybe if you filled out a profile and members here know where you live, they might invite you to their shop and teach you how to spray.
Since I am not familiar with Charles Neil's DVD's all I can say is in general, One DVD is worth more than all of the books you can ever read. Watching body motion is something that cant be put into words.
Started 1 week ago (2009-11-23 05:52:00)
by glenn bradley
I'll be watching as I have the same problem. Having recently done a BLO and clear shellac . . . it's still orange. I don't have any garnet handy but did try some Transtint brown mahogany . . . pretty darn brown . . . still thinking about it.
Started 1 week, 2 days ago (2009-11-20 23:06:00)
by Jim Becker
Polyshades isn't a stain in any way. It's a tinted varnish. And since the wood is sealed, there is no wood to "stain". As to the water based/borne/soluble stain/dye, it's not going to do a very good job over an oil-based product. You may be better served by using a commercial spray toner (check for compatibility with your existing finish--you can't use something lacquer based over that varnish) ...
Started 1 week, 1 day ago (2009-11-21 21:38:00)
by Casey Gooding
A good latex paint will work fine. It can be thinned with water which makes cleaning the gun after spraying sooooo much easier than an oil base. Some guys like to spray lacquer over the paint after it has dried for additional protection.
Wish I could make a recommendation for a good gun. I've never found one I really like.
Started 1 week ago (2009-11-22 17:57:00)
by keith ouellette
PT lumber is one thing I have a lot of experience with.
A couple of things to note.
Let it dry outside for a couple of months before staining (at least one month. some people do it right away and have no problems but that did not work for me) and at least 6 months before painting.
Paint will look real good at first but even if the pt lumber is very dry all the preasure treated ...
Started 5 days, 2 hours ago (2009-11-25 08:32:00)
by Peter Quinn
You should try Smith's CPES as a sealer with an alkyd (oil based) varnish top coat, be it spar or marine like Epifanes. Nothing out lives that epoxy for holding finish.
Started 1 week, 1 day ago (2009-11-22 00:33:00)
by David Christopher
Started 6 days, 11 hours ago (2009-11-24 00:18:00)
by J. Scott Holmes
My advice would be use de-waxed garnet shellac mixed from flakes and top coat it with any interior varnish BUT poly. POLY is for floors.
For a table tops I like the HARD phenloic resin varnishes like Behlen's Rock Hard Table Top varnish and Waterlox Original varnish.
Behlen's Rock Hard Table Top is only available in gloss, but that is OK, once it has cured you can make it any...
Started 2 days, 14 hours ago (2009-11-27 20:37:00)
by J. Scott Holmes
Well you asked...
Poly is for floors, period. Not the best for furniture etc.
Spalted lumber tends to be very absorbant. I would finish inside and out with a couple coats of de-waxed super blonde shellac, if you want no color; or an amber or garnet shellac if you want a bit of color.
Once sealed with the shellac I would use a quality alkyd resin soya oil varnish like Cabot's 8000 ...
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