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I'm no longer going to be posting on these seriously, as it causes me much RAGE! However in general in all the threads on this subject, I have yet to see one credible scientific link from the people who say they are skeptics. I mean really, wattsupwiththat.com? Had this been a thread on evolution and someone had linked to answersingenesis, they would be laughed off the thread. It's a shame that it can't be kept to cold hard...

Originally Posted by rokag3 Code: More specifics in msg #7, and following posts on that page that discuss a recent paper "Trends in the sources and sinks of carbon dioxide" from Nature Geoscience (2009) by Corinne Le Quéré et al. I am impressed by the quality of your source (LOL) Le Quere this is the type of literature she received from the CRU http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emai...1202939193.txt Code: 2. Is...

Originally Posted by Chalnoth And this is a problem because? I thought we were talking about money that went to lining peoples' pockets, not money that went to legitimate stimulus interests, such as medical care. I was talking about the validity of a statement in this thread. The statement that the funding of entitlements is a small portion of the US stimulus spending is invalid. We can't have useful follow on discussions about the...

Originally Posted by Chalnoth Originally Posted by Al68 What does "let out into the general population mean? What money is being hoarded by who, if not the general population? What is a "free" supply of money? The point is that the money is not being used to buy and sell goods. Yeah, I get that point. The way you worded it implied that "the money" in question was the government's money, or...

Originally Posted by mheslep I was talking about the validity of a statement in this thread. The statement that the funding of entitlements is a small portion of the US stimulus spending is invalid. We can't have useful follow on discussions about the justification of a policy if it is based on quicksand. Well, I didn't say that. I was reacting to a different part of your statement, that it was going to lining peoples pockets that...

Global Warming A half-act play by Jimmy Snyder The part of science is played by xxChrisxx, the part of the Public is played by Clint Eastwood. The part of Jimmy's wife is played by Meryl Streep. Jimmy Snyder plays himself. Scene I Jimmy gives his wife a toe-curling kiss and heads off to work. Scene II Science turns the door handle of the Public's house. Public: Don't try it till you've knocked it. Science knocks on the...

Why always the strawman attempts, but if that's the best you can do.

Originally Posted by kakarotyjn I think when the truth is mixed with politics,the experts don't deserve our trust.Maybe there is something more deep in it. If you don't want truth mixed with politics what do you want? I can remember when weather forecasts were not much better then looking out the window, now when they say a hurricane is coming people know that they had better prepare for it. Do you suppose that your grandchildren...

Originally Posted by Chalnoth But again, here's the thing: it doesn't need to be that efficient. The point is that almost no matter what the government does, paying to get stuff done increases the level of demand. And it's that increased level of demand which increases the number of jobs. That is, it's not just the people that are employed by the stimulus that increase the number of jobs, but also the people that are...

Originally Posted by turbo-1 And what would we lose by forcing the largest air-polluters to rein in their discharges? Here in Maine, we have constant ozone alerts in the summer, haze problems, acidified ponds and lakes, mercury bio-accumulating in fish and their predators, and cadmium and other metals accumulating in ruminants. I'd like to lose all of that. The problem accelerated in about 1970 when the EPA said that it was OK to build...