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Skeptic1 wrote: Danokan wrote: Skeptic1 wrote: Danokan, the way I see it you can use your logic only for  this universe.  If there was a regression (either finite or infinite), I'm not sure the logic of our universe applies outside our universe. Here is the picture: ...{universe  -2}......> {universe -1}.......> {universe zero or now}.... Does the logic that applies in our universe also...

CTHULHU wrote: Awesome! The personal discovery that hallucinogenic drugs facilitate is the purest form of the Spiritual experience -- imho Indeed, the key to such experiences is removing the most basic, and strongest, consious aspect of ourself, Ego. The only troule with using such substances is that they can also short circuit such aspects as caution, reason, and self-presrvation instincs.

dc-2 wrote: a) You are correct that a hypothesised omnipotent God is disproven to be good by inspection of the world.  Your response -- that Good should then be redefined, is, however, the action of a denier.  The word has a meaning, and that meaning fails in testing against the world. 1)  One does not need to be omnipotent to evaluate strength.  One need not be perfectly Good to evaluate...

Realitycheck wrote: Thats the problem isn't it? You don't even understand what you are doing even while you are doing it.  You ignored everything in that link except the one thing you figured would, in some way, support your position. Intelligent conversation? How can one have such a discussion with someone who believes in imaginary beings and men who never were? I posted the one thing relative "to being able to prove...

AMLSurvivor wrote: dc-2 wrote: AMLSurvivor wrote: zonnebloem wrote: AMLSurvivor schreef: dc-2 wrote: 1)  Yes, the Abrahamic God is not Good ... already established that. When are you going to quit with the tired remarks about Jehovah? You've established nothing. You are not the judge of principals in Jehovah therefore, you cannot judge the consequences of Jehovah. Your philosophy is debunked. It's a very tired...

AMLSurvivor wrote: Ness757 wrote: AMLSurvivor wrote: 1.) 1st post - this thread. Ness757 wrote: Christianity just isn't compatible with me and I can't respect ANY set of beliefs that tells people desperation is a good thing. 2.) More importantly, because you said so, but didn't equate what she was actually saying. 3.) See #1 - Yes you did! 5.) We agree on pears. 1. So Christianity is incompatible with me, and I don't...

BigE wrote: Realitycheck wrote: Thats the problem isn't it? You don't even understand what you are doing even while you are doing it.  You ignored everything in that link except the one thing you figured would, in some way, support your position. Intelligent conversation? How can one have such a discussion with someone who believes in imaginary beings and men who never were? I posted the one thing relative "to being...

Ali. wrote: Skeptic1 wrote: Ali. wrote: ...cain became angry upon hearing this, and hit his brother with an iron he held in his hand and so killed him ref: Stories of the Prophets by Ibn Kathir Now I didn't even know they had iron back then.  I thought the stone age and bronze age came first.  Boy, you learn something new everyday on Perspectives.  Maybe it was an electric iron . lets not jump the gun peeps ,...

Axis Mundi wrote: bling wrote: Bricktopp wrote: bling wrote:   Bricktopp asked: If god doesn’t want unbelievers to know him through personal experience and observation, what reliable source does he give us to get information on what he’s like or what he wants of us? He wants you to want His help.  If you do not want His help, He is not going to bother you, but God will make sure you do not want His help.  God is...

dc-2 wrote: Lensy wrote: Here is where your argument loses me: 1.  You cannot prove a negative.  As RC stated.    Both you and RC are absolutely incorrect on this. Science operates by proving negatives. A hypothesis is proposed, consequences derived, tests conducted to see if the consequences really hold or not.  This is a test of the question: "Is hypothesis A true?"  If the...