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Yes but that 70% is of the £5Bn costs for SARH which includes profits for the bidder whereas at the moment the costs of running the SAR flts are comparatively low

Hi Shawn Well you are right of course - and what is better than falling from a great height with no rotor is to follow the flight manual when it says Land Immediately, even if you don't like the look of the sea. Ditching under control in a wild sea is moderately survivable, falling with no rotor is not! But then again if the pilots thought that in reality they had 30 mins and the Land Immediately was just some certification arse...

Art E, Is this purely a HEMS/Police query, or a general night landing issue? Australia has many 24 hour HEMS & Police operations, generally single pilot with crewman, all of which would carry out night landings with nitesun with or without NVG on a regular basis into unprepared sites. Many different compliance requirements for the choice of sites, but a trained and professional crew is quite capable of carrying out such an evolution.

Mmmmm .... .... where can I see the pictures of the 109 ground resonance incident? Errrr ..... on the Polish HEMS Agusta 109 thread ... Try this ... Polish HEMS Agusta 109 incident

In normal missions, all people on board are well trained-because they have to go through lots of training.... As far as i know, everybody who is going to work on a rig in the sea has to pass underwater egress training-or is this not an international standard? Before each flight, we have briefed all passengers telling them exactly what to do in an emergency situation.... Luckily, i never had to try if all emergency maneuvers would have worked...

@tu154 0519 Robinson R.44 Astro N7184X 08.10.98 ...02.99 » 4X-BDM It seems, in accordance to above.....that R44 was Astro.... 11 years old

902 We seem to have a different language. Which part of 'know' and 'allegation' suggests a decision on my part on the guilt or otherwise of anyone? You seem to have a preinstalled axe to grind.

Quote: in extremis Which is pretty much the only time we would ditch - or are there other situations you can think of? (fuel leak, is about the only one I can) How do suggest we co-ordinate the evacuation of 19 guys, with no crewmen in the back on intercom? Shouting "brace, brace, brace" over the PA is one thing, attempting a lengthy discourse on how we'd like "you all to jump out, in an orderly...

I fly a 206 for a small company here in the U.S. Only has the standard miserable landing lights, and one extra, fixed spotlight under the fuselage which is aimed downward almost vertically. We routinely go to certain of our sites at night. Of course, none we haven't been to in the daytime. No big deal if you're familiar with the site and you know what you're doing. (It's that last bit that gives me trouble sometimes.) HOGE...

Princess Pushy, You seem to be very well informed and I am wondering whether you can confirm or deny another rumour that I've heard. That one of the Doctor trustees took his family on holiday to Wales in one of the charity's fast response cars, while his own car was being serviced.