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Yes you are working as a pilot or yes you are working? It doesn't really matter, either way, you are entitled to your opinion. This made me happy - Ryanair named the worst family brand: Ryanair named worst 'family brand' - Telegraph

db, Are the numbers stated before or after taxes? And is this just the summer months or on average per month over a year? In other words, if it's after taxes and on average it is a great salary indeed. If it is before and average it would probably leave him with nearly 3k a month, which is great too. But if it's true that Brookfield people fly very very little over the winter months and the numbers stated are before taxes it is not...

flyhighspeed300, I assume that post was a joke at my expense? You cannot be serious? BN

FANS, I agree. As they say, no graph is one directional; however it seems in this case - in terms of employment rights, pay, futures, T&C's etc... - the lowco route into the career for a newbie, the graph seems one directional at present. However, in the true sense of my original statement, if the flexi/contract deal is the way into the industry for the next few years, the model will surely have to change to force the graph...

Green shoots? Isn't that the phrase that estate agents are using?

TheBeak The worst family brand! WTF? who gives a toss about that,, we are not in marrage counciling! we do not promote family values? errmm ok,,, I dont see it in the glare shied check list? FMC/CDU.......SET STROBES.......ON FLAPS...........SELECTED FAMILYS HUGGING........WHO CARES? I fail to see the relevence of that list to any airline. you really are clutching at straws there pal.

Its even worse in the UK than OZ and you would need your JAR licence to stand a chance or join the extremely long queue of very experienced pilots looking for work.

Yeah I do understand... But the economy has it ups and downs and the recover might be near. That's probably why I will go for the PPL and then time will tell what's best. The amount to pay for ATPL is big but that wouldn't be a problem if I could do it while working... But I think I will save myself from these debts bonds and enjoy some private flying doing hours, adding ratings, etc... while balancing what I win and what I...

Thank you so much for all your help and advice. I was thinking about a instructors rating however think I would stumble across the same problems if finding a job. I was thinking of heading down to Africa to get some experience. I am not looking to go straight into an airline but wouldn't mind if I were given it on a plate. I think I may head down to Africa in January for a few months. If anybody has any contacts down there, it would be...