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Quote: Originally Posted by dudehitscar My points: 1. Bush only won once. You know this as much as I do. The first time he got a lot of votes for being seen as a moderate in a lot of ways. I'm sure you remember the Bush vs. Bush things on Youtube. 2. The re-election had nothing to do with Bush being an hard core idealogue on the lines with kucnich or Ron Paul. Which the article was suggesting is necessary to win the center. Are you...

Eulogy did you even read the last few pages of this thread?

tyler durden? seriously?

List of things on which Obama has led:

Quote: Originally Posted by Future Boy TWICE Actually no, it hasnt. You're calling bullshit on reality again. Bad habit of yours. How does this the system? How does this reduce cost? It will help people pay for coverage. Thats good I guess. One word: Bagram. Unless you mean like, waterboarding, in which case Bush put a stop to that. In support of a public option? WHat? When? Tim Kaine, the that serves as long as wishes him to. Obamas...

This is too long for me to edit out the parts where I sound like a snob :/

Quote: Originally Posted by Eric Blair I didn't say it is irreparably flawed. I said it isn't possible to amass a body of evidence that is equivalent to the punishment administered. Then it has to follow that you put substantially less value on someone's liberty than you do their life. I find that problematic, but more on that later in the post. Quote: There are obviously some exceptions. I wouldn't have been bothered by...

Politics is the art of dealing with reality. I'll read tje links when I get the chance but for now I contend that it simply wasn't possble to pass a bill with a PO or some equivalent thereof. Personally, based on what I've read, the bill is actually pretty good (yeah I went there) yes the money goes to the insurance companies but they have to spend like 80% of their profits on health insurance . It cuts deficit costs by a whole...

I will call Obama a war criminal.

fox news man. wtf america