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No mention of Suicide or Television in the early days. That's fine. They kind of led the way to New Wave anyway. **** all that. But I figured that the Skate Punk bands could have been thrown in with the Street Punk bands. And what about Irish Punk? Not doggin' on ya. You actually did a great job.

Personally don't like them I live in Ireland, and like most people i know find the US citizen obsession with being Irish rather comical, especially when it seeps into music To us you are Irish if you were born in Ireland, not because your great great grandfather married a dubliner or whatever No offence but thats how it is

Quote: Originally Posted by Molecules i did too initially, but that's on 'In God...', at least the one I have is. Mine is too but I don't know whether things have changed with CD issues and so on. However, I just can't see how "lounge" can refer to anything else but "We've Got a Bigger Problem Now". It's been a long time since I've actually played any Dead Kennedys...

I think they stand out far more than most run of the mill pop rock bands. Watching there "Loaded" on Fuse right now, and just can't find anything negative to say about these dudes. A great message behind there music, even the new album isn't shallow and weak like most of these bands. Not to deny the obvious shift in sound from album to album, I think anytime a band gets national or mainstream attention, they get...

Off the original list Brody Dalle gets my vote.The stuff she's doing with Spinnerette sounds pretty good too.

Quote: Originally Posted by 5-Track I listen to lots of stuff in Japanese - Acid Mothers, Les Rallizes, OOIOO, etc - and a fair amount in various African languages ... I do wonder what they're singing about, but on the other hand I think I prefer not knowing a lot of the time, that way I'm not disappointed I know what you mean, s hit lyrics can put me off a song. But the lyrics being in a different language you never know what the...

Quote: Originally Posted by Ulysses Wasn't that the 7" version? If memory serves, that came first and the album came later. If tgpo is talking about 'Give Me Convenience or...'s' version of 'California Uber Alles' then "remaking their own songs into lounge hits" doesn't make any sense, no matter what the "lounge" is referring to. I honestly took the lounge comment...

Anybody a fan or heard of the Boston band The Vigilantes?Their stuff is hard to find on the internet but worth a listen if you can locate it.They used to tour with bands like DKM,Forced Reality,Reach the Sky. The album ''City Lights That Lead the Way'',til this day is still my favorite punk release.

Haley Williams bishes

Quote: Originally Posted by Alfred Really, as it stands now, Rise Against are hardly any different than all of the other run-of-the-mill radio hard rock bands. And that's the sad part, kind of what I was getting at earlier. Their first two albums were great.