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Quote: Originally Posted by abiyng87 Ok, now I am thoroughly confused... I guess Obama should consult the Zombie Acorn Guide To What Is And Isn't Income Tax before going about his day. Get real man... I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. -BO Not sure what context...

There's not much to say. It's horrible, but not surprising. Theocracies are definitely a very bad thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by CaptMurdock And how in the seven sons of Sam Hill should Barack Obama get blamed because a couple of nuts crashed a White House dinner? No... you clearly misunderstand... this was Bush's fault... get the latest copy of lib talking points will 'ya?

Quote: Originally Posted by Zombie Acorn Investigations are under way and the snow is falling around the US. We must have not pumped out enough CO2 this year, its going to be the coldest december in years, good thing we aren't calling it global warming anymore. the us isn't the only country in the world... It was the colder than it's been in years here in the UK in January and it's still one of the warmest years on record.

Quote: Originally Posted by NewMacGirl eg http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/c...ever-told.html Just to alert you to the fact that Christopher Booker isn't a reliable source whatsoever. His grip on science is nothing short of horrible. Quote: Via his long-running column in the UK's Sunday Telegraph, Booker has claimed that man-made global warming was "disproved" in 2008[1], that white asbestos is...

Quote: Originally Posted by SUPERSTEVE9219 Well what I am trying to get at is if the brain is like a computer then we can treat it like a math function, with inputs and outputs, but with the brain there are outputs (at least some of them) are projected onto our consciousness, and some of the inputs are introduced into the brain by our consciousness. I mean how could a function be aware of itself? I tend to agree with Hegel in that...

Quote: Originally Posted by Zombie Acorn I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. -BO I see your point but I think we was talking about, going from his examples, taxes that hit you *no matter what*. Taxes on cigs and booze is not a tax that hits *everyone*. Technically...

Quote: Originally Posted by Zombie Acorn I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. -BO Not sure what context the particular quote was in, but its not the only time he didn't specify "income" taxes. But, as others have said, everyone [or so I thought]...

You don't have to buy booze and cigs. I fall well under the $250,000/year threshold and am right smack dab in the middle of middle class, and these taxes have had no effect on me. Why? I don't smoke, and I don't drink a lot. But if I saw that I was having difficulty paying the bills, the first thing I'd cut out of my budget is booze.

Quote: Originally Posted by IntheNet That's a good way of looking at it! My sense here is that the lunatics in the White House think that throwing our money at the problem will fix it... Yeah, that's right. And it might even be ok (not) if they actually threw it AT the actual problem. But here it is. There were hundreds of thousands of good people pushed toward more and more mortgages and more and more banker-designed (somewhat...