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Quote: Originally Posted by Boone43 An excellent card you might want to consider is Traumatize . Extremely powerful and it'll speed up your hideaway lands. Also, you could toss in some Belltower Sphinx s for some extra D and mill all at once. Telemin Performance is also a handy card that'll mill your opponent, and steal from him/her to give you some defense (and maybe offense). Another card that goes really well in a blue/black mill...

IMO the creature density is quite low, with one of them being dependent on your opponent playing a landfall deck. Wurmcalling, Phantom Wurm , Penumbra Wurm ? These come with in-built "protection". If you want to beat in the early game, there's Thundering Wurm in conjunction with Harvest Wurm , although risky.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cecilia No need to snap at me Barfly. I also thought this was a casual forums not a competitive forums? Written word doesn't convey the tone. For what it's worth, I wasn't snapping at anyone, I was simply asking.

Quote: Originally Posted by Iuz I guess is depends on what gets you excited i like efficiency and flexibility, but not aggression. i.e. boggart ram-gang and wren's run vanquisher bore me, but sunforger and stonehewer giant are some of my favorite cards. although anything that costs more than 3 sort of annoys me sometimes :P if you tend to go the other way (toward big expensive fatties) you'll still be able to pare your deck down...

yes. i know. its not right. but when my sligh deck runs out of steam or cardadvantage, im basically dead in a turn, so i propose: Howling Sligh   REFILLERS 4 howling mine 2 font of mythos HASTY BEATS 4 keldon mauradors 4 jackal familiar 4 goblin bushwhacker 4 hellspark elemental 4 raging goblin BURN 4 lightning bolt 4 rift bolt 4 burst lighting LANDS 20 mountains 2 more spots.

In my playgroup, no, this would not smash anybody's face in. It's pretty inconsistent. You seem to like the idea it goes in two different directions, but I'd suggest not doing this. Half of the deck wants to be aggro, half of it wants to be control. You've got some high mana cost cards but only 20 lands, so I would honestly drop the mana curve a bit and try to be more aggressive, since that's where your core is. Get...

Quote: Originally Posted by Abhi Koh Bond of Agony is actually pretty bad. You don't really want to be losing life yourself. It only works when you have more life than all of your opponents. which in black is very easy to do, bond is actually very good what is wrong with you anyway, pestilence / pyrohemia . also megrim and pox .

I can see some paths: 1) Madness, Threshold and Flashback 2) Land based Wurms ( Fallow Wurm , Harvest Wurm , Trench Wurm , Argothian Wurm ...) 3) Ramping Wurms Madness, Threshold and Flashback seems the easier, cheaper and faster path to take. WURM MADNESS   // LANDS (22) 04 Terramorphic Expanse 06 Mountain 12 Forest // DISCARD OUTLETS (08) 04 Greenseeker 04 Wild Mongrel // WURMS (20) 04 Arrogant Wurm 04 Metamorphic Wurm 04 Reckless...

Definitely play Nature's Lure over Rampant Growth . It's just a better card in mono , period.

I think instead of Overrun or maybe in addition to, you should run Kamahl, Fist of Krosa . He's beats-o-licious.