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Quote: Originally Posted by Future However I am sure you and I know the teachers that use the same old lesson plans because they can get away with it, do the bare minimum and use "read the chapter and answer the questions at the end" for teaching. Yes. The 12-14 hour a day teachers are a huge minority. I worked @ a high school and I stayed after hours with the kids and I didn't see any teachers and I'm assuming...

Quote: Originally Posted by msucurt Ive been a high school chemistry teacher of 10yrs and also coach varsity football and track. Yes, we are underpaid, especially the ones like me who coach the young men and women. During the months of august 1 - december (football), i easily work 70+ hrs.....6 days a week. And the supplement for coaching football....$1900 ($1400 after taxes). Trust me guys, i dont do it for the money, but i also dont like...

My wife just told me yesterday she got a newsletter from the National Education Association (I think it was the NEA) that their reps are going to be lobbying for there to be no income tax rebates handed out to individuals, and all the money that was going to be sent out in rebates be put into an educational fund for the nation. I'm not real happy about that idea and I don't think anyone else will be either. We need to keep our...

If you agree with your employer that you'll sell them, say, 40 years of full-time service in exchange for an annual salary with set raise parameters, periodic vacation time, medical and dental, and a pension plan, then I don't see how it's socialism to collect your pension. Seems like a purely capitalist arrangement to me...you've delivered the service you contracted for and you're entitled to the compensation....

some teachers around me make 130k after 15 years. and a superintendent that makes 400k all payed by taxes

Ive been a high school chemistry teacher of 10yrs and also coach varsity football and track. Yes, we are underpaid, especially the ones like me who coach the young men and women. During the months of august 1 - december (football), i easily work 70+ hrs.....6 days a week. And the supplement for coaching football....$1900 ($1400 after taxes). Trust me guys, i dont do it for the money, but i also dont like when people say teachers...

If you put in 15 years doing service like that you better be making 80K. It's not that much in today's economy. I was making 65K+ in '95. It didn't go all that far, and my live in girlfriend made about the same. House payments, car payments, and yes, some toys and you wonder WTF. I am working 60 hours a week, doing a commute and it's hardly "the life". It does depend of course on where you live. I was...

Coming from a family of teachers, and being a teacher myself, I have way too much to say on this and I believe most of it will fall on deaf ears. So let me just say the following. Education is a complex relationship among the student, parents, teachers, administration, the government, and the union. It is never just one element at fault; it is never just one element that should get the credit. IMO there is one fundamental shift in education in...

I certainly don't begrudge them higher salaries, especially in expensive areas - but what irks me is people blaming the failures of the kids in 'underprivileged'' areas on the teachers.. the days of teacher being able to instill the fear of God into pupils vanished back in the 70's when Progressives decided that children should be 'related to' and 'respected'. combine that with horrific parenting...

Very well said SB.