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Disposition of NonConformances -...
Published (2009-12-04 13:03:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by bluepagen Our NCR for does not have the option of use as is. We do have scrap, return to vendor, rework, and meets design requirments. Quote: Originally Posted by Sidney Vianna Sorry, but that does not make sense. If it meets design requirements, the part should have not been flagged as non-conforming to start with. Yes. If the part meets design requirements, then the drawing doesn't. Any way you look at it,...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-02 13:16:00)
You are correct. The plant manager emmits the attitude that quality is a necessary evil. We (quality group) try to show the financial benefits of the quality system as well as assisting all departments in practically every area from engineering to production, but it still comes down to since we do not produce an actual product from quality we are a burden. We have some of the largest companies in the nation as customers due to the quality of...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-02 17:18:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by qualityce You are correct. The plant manager emmits the attitude that quality is a necessary evil. We (quality group) try to show the financial benefits of the quality system as well as assisting all departments in practically every area from engineering to production, but it still comes down to since we do not produce an actual product from quality we are a burden. We have some of the largest companies in the...
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Disposition of NonConformances -...
Published (2009-12-04 12:55:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by bluepagen Our NCR for does not have the option of use as is. We do have scrap, return to vendor, rework, and meets design requirments. Sorry, but that does not make sense. If it meets design requirements, the part should have not been flagged as non-conforming to start with. It seems that the "USE-AS-IS" option is mis-titled meets design requirements for political correctness and liability...
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Disposition of NonConformances -...
Published (2009-12-04 12:32:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by bluepagen What is would like to know is when the non-conformance is dispositioned, we see a large amount of "meets design requirements". If it does not meet the requirements on the drawing, then how can it meet design requirements. We rarely see, "meets manufacturing requirements". Why wouldn't this be a better disposition if the tolerance is out, since it did not meet the...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-02 12:37:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by qualityce Wow..this is the types of issues I am dealing with. I measure the average time taken to close C/A. The average is 50 days. The arguments I get are we don't have time and time is money. I do have a related question I would like to pose though. I have a production manager whose personnel failed to report a nonconformance. There is no evidence that he ever planned to, but I issued a C/A for failing to...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-02 15:05:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Jennifer Kirley They haven't been willing to share documents sourcing their "guidance" but my registrar has said a problem should be resolved within 60 days. But that could be just him - of course I disagree, there is no one set correct time frame. In my tracking logs I differentiate between CA projects and whether the issue is a simple spec update. This gives a little quick insight after...
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Disposition of NonConformances -...
Published (2009-12-04 12:44:00)
Thanks for the responses. This was my first time to ask a question, and I hoped it would be understood as writte. Our NCR for does not have the option of use as is. We do have scrap, return to vendor, rework, and meets design requirments. I have thought all along that if the tolerance was not accurate as listed on the drawing, then the drawing should be corrected' Workmanship should play into the picture when being manufactured, and the...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-01 20:23:00)
We will have our AS9100/ISO surveillance audit in less than a month. We have about 20 open corrective actions that belong to upper management including the CEO that are past due. I have tried just about everything to get upper management to play ball but unless is customer driven they focus in on the flavor of the day not on maintaining their QMS. Since upper management only see dollars -- what are some ideas I can put together to put a...
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C/A (Corrective Action) not...
Published (2009-12-02 17:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Wynne The absolute worst thing you could do at this point is go at the production manager with a dictionary. You're trying to deal with problems that are beyond your control. Your priorities and those of the production manager are different, and he's going to do what he feels is in his best interests every time. The best thing you can do at this point is to sit down with him and discuss the situation....
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Latest active threads on Nonconformance and Corrective Action::
Started 3 weeks, 4 days ago (2009-11-16 05:26:00)
by brahmaiah
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Originally Posted by dQApprentice
Below are against clause 4.2.3 of the standard as well as to the organizations own procedure. If you are to report audit findings, are you going to count the following lapses as 1 nonconformity or 4 nonconformities?
1. Changes to current version of a specific document were found ...
Started 1 week ago (2009-12-04 12:23:00)
by ScottK
In my current world the drawing is, indeed, the design requirements AND the manufacturing requirements.
HOWEVER - there might be a design requirment that is looser than the manufacturing requirement.
For example - in order for the design of part A to work in the system it's designed for it needs to be .500" +- .020.
But engineering wants to ensure a good part (because they don't trust ...
Started 1 week, 3 days ago (2009-12-01 20:54:00)
by Jim Wynne
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Originally Posted by Eloy Gomez
We will have our AS9100/ISO surveillance audit in less than a month. We have about 20 open corrective actions that belong to upper management including the CEO that are past due. I have tried just about everything to get upper management to play ball but unless is customer driven they ...
Started 2 weeks, 2 days ago (2009-11-25 21:17:00)
by DannyK
It is very hard to comment on the major finding issued since I was not there.
However if you feel strongly that the finding has not been graded correctly, you can appeal. Each registrar has to maintain an appeals process.
From your description, and the way the finding was written, it does appear as if the auditor went a bit too far.
Started 2 weeks, 2 days ago (2009-11-25 04:56:00)
by Umang Vidyarthi
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Originally Posted by Chandradhar Shukla
Can any one suggest me the best and effective method of 8d report preperation and provide the format for the same.
presently we are doing with a simple format where different 8 dicipline is mentioned under which we use some tools like why-why analysis,fishbone and pareto for...
Started 3 weeks, 3 days ago (2009-11-17 20:08:00)
by Miner
This was probably written that way to prevent an unmanageable number of NCRs, but you have a valid concern. A Deming approach would be to run a p-chart or c-chart on the process. When in control, no NCR. When it exceeds the UCL, write an NCR. This will also provide the necessary data to compare suppliers, etc.
Started 1 month ago (2009-11-11 10:08:00)
by Jim Wynne
Under the understanding that "NCR" stands for "nonconformance report," how you use it is up to your company. When you find a nonconformity in your product, it should be documented and there should be a standard method for disposition. In general, the standard dispositions are:
Use as is
Rework (bringing the item into a state of conformance to specifications)
Repair (fixing the item so that...
Started 1 month ago (2009-11-09 15:27:00)
by Jennifer Kirley
Hello,
I got hung up on the HW and SW. Can you elaborate please?
Started 3 years, 3 months ago (2006-09-08 00:00:00)
by Coury Ferguson
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Originally Posted by ttwerp65
So, what I am hearing is I can keep it to one form, call it Ncr or mrb form and still comply to standard. By the way, thanks for your time and help!!!
Call it a NCR.
Carol is also right in suggesting that the back be used as your Corrective
Action. That would meet the requirements in my opinion.
Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago (2009-10-27 17:00:00)
by ScottK
The way my system is designed I would issue a preventive CAPA and make sure to phrase it as an opportunity for improvement.
Prior to formally issuing the CAPA I would hold a brief meeting of the involved parties and explain that the purpose of the CAPA is so we document the issue and make things better for the future.
And certainly emphasize that this isn't to point fingers and assign ...
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Hot threads for last week on Nonconformance and Corrective Action::
Started 1 week ago (2009-12-04 12:23:00)
by ScottK
In my current world the drawing is, indeed, the design requirements AND the manufacturing requirements.
HOWEVER - there might be a design requirment that is looser than the manufacturing requirement.
For example - in order for the design of part A to work in the system it's designed for it needs to be .500" +- .020.
But engineering wants to ensure a good part (because they don't trust ...
Started 3 weeks, 4 days ago (2009-11-16 05:26:00)
by brahmaiah
Quote:
Originally Posted by dQApprentice
Below are against clause 4.2.3 of the standard as well as to the organizations own procedure. If you are to report audit findings, are you going to count the following lapses as 1 nonconformity or 4 nonconformities?
1. Changes to current version of a specific document were found ...
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