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How to make good Evaluation of...
Published (2009-12-05 13:45:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by automoto I agree! For me ISO certificate is not guarantee for reliable supplier. It is just an indicator that supplier understand basic quality principles. It seem that ISO certificates have lost their original purpose. ISO/TS certificate is form be better indicator for supplier reliability. My statement about ISO 9001 certified suppliers is sadly also true for some ISO/TS 16949 ones. Automotive customers tend to...
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ISO/TS 16949 Manufacturing...
Published (2009-11-29 14:53:00)
Typically, a quality system audit is performed somewhat similarly to a CB audit. It might start with the receipt of an RFQ or order and follow the processes through to the shipment of product. A manufacturing process audit (in the TS 16949 world) would typically focus on and follow the Product Control Plan, from receipt of materials, through manufacturing to the packaging of product. If you have made a distinction between the two, I'd be...
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How to make good Evaluation of...
Published (2009-12-05 10:33:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Stijloor I know some ISO certified suppliers that are not very good... Stijloor. I endorse this statement. Being ISO Certified does not "always" guarantee good application. It comes from good understandingof the requirements, discipline of the team, Top Management involvement, blaw blaw. Thanks.
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Help Needed to complete audit...
Published (2009-12-07 07:50:00)
Puneet, If it is IRCA, they also certain First Party audits and Consultancy audits as stated HERE Internal (first party) audits : For the Internal Auditor grade we will accept internal audits performed by you on parts of your own organization where you are independent from the operational activities you are auditing. We will consider accepting internal audits for other grades providing that, in addition to you being independent from the...
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How to make good Evaluation of...
Published (2009-12-05 13:31:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Stijloor I know some ISO certified suppliers that are not very good... Stijloor. I agree! For me ISO certificate is not guarantee for reliable supplier. It is just an indicator that supplier understand basic quality principles. It seem that ISO certificates have lost their original purpose. ISO/TS certificate is form be better indicator for supplier reliability.
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How to make good Evaluation of...
Published (2009-12-05 14:01:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Chennaiite Dear Coves, How to make good evaluation of Quality Management System of Suppliers ? (Is it really a million dollar question..) I will put a closed question - Is it possible to make correct evaluation of Supplier QMS without adequate knowledge of the relevant process/product and only through Documents/Records, Observation and interviews? Of course, QMS knowledge is by default. Thanks. In general,...
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How to make good Evaluation of...
Published (2009-12-05 08:30:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Chennaiite Somebody who has worked all his life in Casting and forging may not understand the influence of "dust" in "Screen printing" process. Is it not so? In which case, how does this evaluator going to confirm that particular QMS is good enough to eliminate or reduce the quality risk? Thanks. If the evaluator sees a robust and functioning QMS they should see good...
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Customer Right to View...
Published (2009-12-02 13:23:00)
I've been on both sides of this issue. Having done supplier audits, first, I had a list of what was generally accepted a creditable registrars. We accepted their certificate. If we were having quality issues, we would then initiate an audit of our own. At that point, I'm not interested in what their registrar reports as something is not right anyway. Here is my humble opinion. If my company is certified and I did not accept...
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Latest active threads on ISO 19011 and ALL Auditing Discussions::
Started 2 days, 15 hours ago (2009-12-07 04:58:00)
by Colpart
Puneet, well done on passing the LA course. You are suffering the same problem as many people do which is trying to get the appropriate number of audits under your belt.
The audits can be second or third party ones so don't forget to speak with people who conduct 2nd party audits too. In fact, they can be more beneficial as the rules say that at least 50% of the time must be spent 'on site' ...
Started 1 month, 1 week ago (2009-10-29 22:41:00)
by Sidney Vianna
How can one improve on TC 176's wisdom? How to Add Value during the audit process
Started 18 hours, 43 minutes ago (2009-12-09 02:09:00)
by Caroline Night
Looks like your management is only interested in having ISO 9001 on paper and not on the ground. Implementing this standard and ensuring its effectiveness took us 2 years. Please advice your boss accordingly. Remember if that responsibility you have been given fails, you will be held responsible.
Started 2 days, 5 hours ago (2009-12-07 15:20:00)
by Sidney Vianna
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Originally Posted by tlarosa
What does it mean to be qualified to ISO 19011?
ISO 19011 provides GUIDANCE on qualification and competence establishment of auditors for quality and environmental management systems. Since it is a guidance document, it is not easy for one to establish "conformance" ...
Started 4 days, 19 hours ago (2009-12-05 00:58:00)
by Stijloor
No, not really. That's why a site visit and supplier audit are much more effective.
Stijloor.
Started 2 weeks, 2 days ago (2009-11-23 13:13:00)
by alspread
It is not uncommon in the aerospeca world. They don't all ask for it, but some customers insist upon it.
In fact Pratt & Whitney has it written into their supplier quality manual that the supplier must permit read-only access to the supplier's report directly through OASIS.
Started 3 years, 2 months ago (2006-10-06 00:00:00)
by allenlee
ralphsulser
Thanks for sharing, which is really helpful to guide the auditors to
conduct process audit
Started 1 year, 4 months ago (2008-07-14 09:30:00)
by Coury Ferguson
Just a Bump on this thread. Anyone have any comments or suggestions that can help this person?
Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago (2009-10-20 21:22:00)
by Sidney Vianna
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Originally Posted by selena15
Is it allowed to issue an corrective action to an assessor
Technically, you can issue a corrective action request to the certification body, since they are a supplier of services. CAR's are not typically issued against a person.
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Hot threads for last week on ISO 19011 and ALL Auditing Discussions::
Started 4 days, 19 hours ago (2009-12-05 00:58:00)
by Stijloor
No, not really. That's why a site visit and supplier audit are much more effective.
Stijloor.
Started 2 days, 15 hours ago (2009-12-07 04:58:00)
by Colpart
Puneet, well done on passing the LA course. You are suffering the same problem as many people do which is trying to get the appropriate number of audits under your belt.
The audits can be second or third party ones so don't forget to speak with people who conduct 2nd party audits too. In fact, they can be more beneficial as the rules say that at least 50% of the time must be spent 'on site' ...
Started 2 days, 5 hours ago (2009-12-07 15:20:00)
by Sidney Vianna
Quote:
Originally Posted by tlarosa
What does it mean to be qualified to ISO 19011?
ISO 19011 provides GUIDANCE on qualification and competence establishment of auditors for quality and environmental management systems. Since it is a guidance document, it is not easy for one to establish "conformance" ...
Started 1 month, 1 week ago (2009-10-29 22:41:00)
by Sidney Vianna
How can one improve on TC 176's wisdom? How to Add Value during the audit process
Started 2 weeks, 2 days ago (2009-11-23 13:13:00)
by alspread
It is not uncommon in the aerospeca world. They don't all ask for it, but some customers insist upon it.
In fact Pratt & Whitney has it written into their supplier quality manual that the supplier must permit read-only access to the supplier's report directly through OASIS.
Started 18 hours, 43 minutes ago (2009-12-09 02:09:00)
by Caroline Night
Looks like your management is only interested in having ISO 9001 on paper and not on the ground. Implementing this standard and ensuring its effectiveness took us 2 years. Please advice your boss accordingly. Remember if that responsibility you have been given fails, you will be held responsible.
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