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Quote: Originally Posted by Paleo Dobbs opposes LEGAL immigration and free trade.I'd call that "nativist and protectionist". He opposes "Legal" immigration? Wow thats the first I heard of that. I was almost sure he believed in legal immigration but was agains illegal immigration. I was under the impression that he felt that free trade was necessary but that the US must be on a level playing field with the countries it...

Quote: Originally Posted by SarahFair "green" products just seem more expensive. If they would make them a desirable price YES I would be more than happy to purchase them. I feel awful for the close to 400 plastic grocery bags I keep under my cabinet. I was reading it takes an estimated 500 years for them to break down. Over the last two years I know Ive had close to 1000. If we know its bad for our planet why do we opt for it? And...

Quote: Originally Posted by SarahFair But what would happen if the government did step out? Look at the prohibition experience and you'll have your answer.

Quote: Originally Posted by SarahFair I heard that someone started drying their clothes on a line and it saves them 30% every month on their electric bill. I was talking to someone in Ga saying that its pretty hard to dry your clothes outside due to the high humidity. They come in smelling dirty.. Idk but I think when the weather gets warmer Im going to try it. Small start but its something "green" products just seem more expensive....

Quote: Originally Posted by Rich Kaminski OK, here's my take on it. Legalize drugs like in the Neitherlands and tax them. That will dramatically reduce the cost of drugs, minimize crime and free the drug dealers from our jails because the big corporations like drug companies will be the retailers. It works and it is proven. Get rid of all credit cards. If some financial institutions fail, so be it. Force the banks to only make collateral...

He is merely a front man for the banks, corporations and other big money boys who have devised this New World Order system which will be predicated on carbon taxes paid by everyone to private entities. It really is the ultimate scam. Bigger even than private fractional reserve banking, with which it will work hand in hand. As I said in another thread, they have come too far to let something like a little inconvenient truth stop them from...

Quote: Originally Posted by Paleo He opposes the H1b visa program because it lets foreigners come here legally to work.(I oppose it because it is too restrictive on them). You accused Dobbs of being against legal immigration. The H1b visa program is not -or at least WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE- an "immigration" program. It is however, frequently used as a 'back door' by aliens seeking a green card. That it is abused as such is...

Quote: Originally Posted by pbradley IF that is what they were doing, then it is up to the state to prove that that is what they were doing. It is not for them to have their property confiscated and then to have to come before the courts to prove that they were not acting as couriers. Probably not, but the burden of proof still lies with the state. Agreed on both counts.

Our President and his bunch are a bunch of idiots.

You are more optimistic than I. The last great turn occurred under Ronald Reagan, and that turn only lasted 8 years, at which time George HW Bush put us right back on our previous collision course with socialism. We are a different nation now. Too many people are feeding at the government trough, and as soon as people become dependent upon the federal government for health care, it will be all over.