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Quote: I can't imagine enthusiasm over selling or licensing the IP to a Chinese manufacturer. Apparently, this is why the BAIC deal fell through. Quote: So there are effectively 3 new Saabs in the pipeline? 3? Not really. There's the 9-5, plus a wagon version, and the 9-4X. I don't know if there was ANY work done on a new 9-3.

Somewhere in a few weeks, a traveling pharmacy salesperson will be driving the last American made Pontiac from customer to customer. What an incredibly tragic end to such a storied American brand.

Quote: Lutz might be a "car guy" but his track record at Pontiac is nothing to tip your hat too. Point taken... I guess my overall idea is the more 'car guys' we have at the top the better. I concede to your point that they need to make better decisions though.. I dunno, it just seems to me like too many at the top have no care for the automobile heritage or history. What has been done at GM over the last 35 years...

Considering the insanity over at OPEL and GM's limited resources, I have to think they are greatly motivated to sell SAAB. Or to put it another way; with Liquidation Motors in the business of liquidating assets, you have to figure SAAB will either be sold cheap or liquidated.

Quote: Originally Posted by BuickBoy Not sure who was responsible but I hope they are on the list to be fired. If it brings you any joy, they "fired" LaNeve last month.

Quote: Originally Posted by Busta_44 Agreed. Oldsmobile has a huge legacy here in Lansing (also born and raised here) and my mother's parents both worked for them as well as my father. My mother only ever owned Cutlasses (she had 4 from 1970 to 1987) until they stopped production, at which time she bought a Bonneville SSEi. (Also, I just got into Lansing again a few days ago--I'm up north for college--and I heard that the Olds...

It's a sad way to go out for Pontiac. First they starve it of products and then they end production of the brand with no fanfare. I am looking forward to the demise of GMC. When gas prices go up, the rebadged Chevy trucks can go away and the Acadia and Terrain can be given to Buick.

BAIC want the old technology particularly chassis and safety cell.

What about Magna? Since the Opel deal fell through they could go for Saab. Right?

What choice does the EIB have don't lend them the money and Sweeden will take a hit along with the other Euro countries where the suppliers are? It probably wouldn't be a huge hit but a symbolic one with what Saab means to the people of Sweeden, when do politicians/government say "hey lets withhold money and lose jobs it sounds like a great idea".